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Old 08-03-2017, 11:22 AM   #151
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Manuel Erotikos Komnenos (Greek: Μανουήλ Ἐρωτικός Κομνηνός, Manouēl Erōtikos Komnēnos; 955/960 – c. 1020) was a Byzantine military leader under Basil II, and the first fully documented ancestor of the Komnenos dynasty.

Nothing is known otherwise about his life and career. According to Varzos, Manuel inherited his surname of "Komnenos" from his father, while his equally obscure mother was an unnamed lady of the Erotikos family, possibly related to the 11th-century rebel Theophilos Erotikos.

Nikephoros Komnenos

He served as governor of the Armenian region of Vaspurakan, and is one of the first known members of the Komnenos family, which came to rule the Byzantine Empire in 1081–1185.

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Heraclius, born in or near Cappadocia in 575 , was the son of the patrician Heraclius, known as the "Ancient" , a senior officer of the army of the Emperor Maurice (regn. 582-602 ), of Armenian origin, And his wife Epiphania. Heraclius the Elder served for a long time in the eastern provinces, near the Persian frontier (as deputy of the magister militum per Orientem , then from about 595 as magister militum per Armeniam ).

Heraclian dynasty (610-711)

Heraclius (610–641) - ARMENIAN, born in Cappodocia, Turkey.
Constantine III (641-641) - ARMENIAN, son of Heraclius, born in Lazica, Republic of Georgia.
Heraklonas (641-641) - ARMENIAN, son of Heraclius, born in Lazica, Republic of Georgia.
Constans II (641–668) - ARMENIAN, son of Constatine III.
Mezezius (668–669) - ARMENIAN, born in Malazgirt, Turkey.
Constantine IV (668–685) - ARMENIAN, son of Constans II.
Justinian II (685–695) - ARMENIAN, son of Constatine IV.
Leontios (695–698) - ISAURIAN, born in Isauria, Turkey.
Tiberios III (698–705) - GERMAN, born in Germany, exact village or town unknown.
Justinian II (705–711) - ARMENIAN, restored.


^Those are confirmed. French Wiki is more accurate.
Read for Isaurians:
https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isaurie

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Old 08-19-2017, 02:53 AM   #153
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Leonid dynasty (457-518)

Leo I (457-474) - THRACIAN, born in Thrace, exact village or town unknown.
Leo II (474-474) - ISAURIAN, Son of Zeno
Zeno (474-475) - ISAURIAN, born in Isauria, Turkey.
Basiliscus (475-476) - UNKNOWN, Born in the northern Balkans, exact village or town unknown, brother-in-law of Leo I the Thracian
Zeno (476-491) - ISAURIAN, restored as emperor.
Anastasius I (491-518) - ILLYRIAN, born in Durres, Albania.

Phrygian dynasty (820-867)

Michael II(820-829) - possibly of ARMENIAN origin, Born in Amorium, Turkey, married to an Armenian
Theophilus (829-842) - ARMENIAN, son of Michael II and an Armenian mother and Armenian wife. (Theodora )
(Theodora (842-855) - ARMENIAN, born in Paphlagonia, Turkey.)
Michael III (855-867) - ARMENIAN, son of Theophilus.

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Paphlagonian is a regional term.
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2. Origin - Dynasty appearance

The oral tradition about the origin of the imperial house of Palaiologos dictates her in Italy. According to one version, the Palaiologians came from the Italian city of Viterbo (old word = vetus verbus); in another version, they were of Roman descent and arrived in Constantinople along with the great Constantine . This second variation resembles similar traditions about other Byzantine aristocratic families with aspirations in the imperial throne (eg Phocades and Doukas ): the origin from Rome and the movement to Constantinople together with its founder and emperor Megalo Konstantinos ensured glamor and somehow legitimized the imperial claims of these families. 1

In fact it seems that the Palaeologists came from Asia Minor , and indeed from the Byzantine theme of the East . 2 On the etymology of their surname, Kazhdan considers it to be a "picker", possibly indicating a humble origin, while Vannier prefers to interpret it as a "collector of ancient objects". 3 In relation to the other Byzantine aristocratic families, Palaeologists appear relatively late in the second half of the 11th century. So the first known Palaiologos - perhaps the family's originator - was Nikephoros; commander of the Mesopotamian theme probably with the title duke during the reign of Michael Z (1071-1078) actively supported Nikephoros' stance ) Botanei . On the contrary, the son of Nikephorus, George, was a supporter of the Doukas and then of Alexios I Komnenos ; his marriage to his granddaughter, John Duke, Anna, connected the Palaiologists with the families of Doukas and Komnenos and accordingly regulated and their alliances. George is referred to as the coroner and duke of Durres on Alexios I Komnenos (1081-1118).

During the 12th century Palaiologists appeared to belong to the military aristocracy and did not occupy political offices. They appeared as donors in monasteries and continued the tactics of the marriages with members of the Imperial dynasty of the Komnenoi. Their relative ties with the families of Doukas and Komnenians were highlighted by the first emperors of the Palaiologian dynasty, also signing these names, in part to promote their origins from an imperial dynasty and thus the legality of their own dynasty; later this practice was abandoned. The Palaiologos family followed Theodore A Laskaris in Nicaea , where they continued to occupy high offices (the father of the later emperor Michael II, Andronikos Palaiologos, was awarded the title of the great domestikos , probably on John C. Vatatzis , while Michael also worked as a soldier, and until 1254 he had already occupied the post of great coposta ).
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