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  • Bill77
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 4545

    Its not up on Youtube yet as it happened moments ago, but here's a link to what was posted on Twitter.


    Macedonia will burn if the name gets changed.

    A large Gathering in front of the Parliament to protest the Zaev - Tsipras name deal



    The end is near for the illegitimate socialist government of Macedonia which was put in place by European globalists and that of Obama appointed Ambassador Jess Baily who shoehorned political parties into forming a “red-green” coalition between leftist and Islamic-based parties.
    http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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    • Phoenix
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 4671

      Originally posted by Bill77 View Post
      Its not up on Youtube yet as it happened moments ago, but here's a link to what was posted on Twitter.


      Macedonia will burn if the name gets changed.

      A large Gathering in front of the Parliament to protest the Zaev - Tsipras name deal



      The end is near for the illegitimate socialist government of Macedonia which was put in place by European globalists and that of Obama appointed Ambassador Jess Baily who shoehorned political parties into forming a “red-green” coalition between leftist and Islamic-based parties.
      I would like to see Zaev bow out in Nicolae Ceaușescu fashion...

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      • Bill77
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 4545

        "George Orwell’s dire warning about a “politically correct” police state is about to become a reality in the Republic of Macedonia if the country implements its recently signed agreement with Greece, as there are many provisions within that document which obligate Skopje to suppress its citizens’ freedom of speech under pane of being taken to the UN and/or the International Court of Justice, and to top it all off, Athens will have the authority to jointly determine what Macedonian children are taught in school as well as what “politically incorrect” expressions & concepts should be banned by the authorities.

        There’s no “polite” way to phrase this – the Republic of Macedonia is on the brink of becoming a “politically correct” police state if it capitulates to the Liberal-Globalists and their regional Greek proxy. This isn’t an exaggeration but a statement of fact considering the Orwellian clauses contained within the recently signed name deal which obligate Skopje to essentially suppress its citizens’ freedom of speech otherwise the entire country could potentially be taken to the UN and the International Court of Justice. Whatever one’s personal views may be about the legitimacy of the country’s constitutional name and its peoples’ use of the adjectival term Macedonian to describe their identity, history, culture, and language, it’s undoubtedly an unprecedented totalitarian step for a foreign government to impose its “political correctness” on another country, which represents nothing less than a post-modern occupation of what’s supposed to be a sovereign state."
        For further reading https://www.eurasiafuture.com/2018/0...-police-state/
        http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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        • Bill77
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 4545

          Time for some delightful news

          PEDIATRIC CLINIC IN SKOPJE GETS A DONATION FROM MACEDONIAN DIASPORA IN MELBOURNE

          http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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          • Tomche Makedonche
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 1123

            If you find yourself throwing up in your mouth whilst reading the below, you're not alone

            http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/arti...mes-06-20-2018

            Macedonia’s Precedent Frightens Illiberal Balkan Regimes

            The spectacle of Macedonia’s citizens toppling their corrupt government – and then resolving a major historic dispute – justifiably worries entrenched illiberal regimes across the Balkans

            The ink on the Macedonia-Greece name deal is not yet dry but already nationalists in both Skopje and Athens are attempting to undermine it.

            That was always going to be the case, and one assumes that both Macedonia’s Zoran Zaev and Greece’s Alexis Tsipras have done their due diligence in ensuring that they have the votes at home to make “the Republic of North Macedonia” – and its path towards NATO and EU membership – a reality.

            While the outcome of this entire endeavor is still an open question, it is worth assessing the broader regional ramifications of a potential resolution to the Macedonian “name issue”.

            Contrary to the celebratory mood in Brussels, many leaders in the Western Balkans are not pleased at this turn of events. To understand why this is so, it necessary to reflect on how we arrived here and where the region may or may not turn if these negotiations end successfully.

            The triumph of Zaev’s government was the direct result of the “Colorful Revolution” – the months-long insurrection of Macedonia’s citizens against the proto-authoritarian regime of Nikola Gruevski.

            It was the assembled masses in the streets that forced European and American mediators to intervene in the country after the revelations of the wiretapping scandal.

            It was they who forced Gruevski’s resignation, and they who ensured the victory of Zaev’s Social Democratic Union, SDSM, at the ensuing elections.

            Zaev and his associates should be commended for living up to the expectations of the Macedonian electorate and for getting Athens to finally budge from its years-long policy of obstructing Skopje’s Euro-Atlantic progress.

            But this breakthrough would not have occurred without the revolutionary desire for genuine democracy on the part of ordinary Macedonians, and their willingness to realize this both in the street and at the ballot box.

            That revolutionary specter haunts the halls of power in Belgrade, Podgorica, Sarajevo, and Banja Luka, too.

            Entrenched illiberal regimes across the Balkans, which have successfully emptied elections of their substantive democratic dimensions and their capacities to genuinely affect change, fear this Macedonian precedent.

            It was bad enough for Gruevski to be ousted by an insurrection of his own citizens. But for the government that succeeded him to be now on the cusp of resolving one of the most protracted bilateral disputes in modern history is a truly horrific turn of events for these elites.

            This development has given citizens across the region two crucial ingredients that they largely lacked over the last three decades: hope, and a blueprint for change.

            Much as Russia’s Vladimir Putin feared that the Ukrainian Euromaidan protests might become an inspiration for Russians repelled by his regime’s kleptocratic and autocratic tendencies, so the likes of Serbia’s President Aleksandar Vucic fear the course of events in Macedonia.

            Beside the fact that his administration, along with its Kremlin allies, spent years propping up Gruevski’s regime, Vucic pointedly withdrew the entire Serbian embassy staff from Skopje in August 2017 to undermine the new SDSM-led government.

            The claim emanating from Belgrade, that this was a response to Skopje’s support for Kosovo’s UNESCO membership bid, was transparently absurd

            As ever, it was Milorad Dodik, President of Bosnia’s Republika Srpska entity, who “said the quiet part loud” – namely that his government (and by extension, that of his benefactor, Vucic) feared a repeat of a “Macedonian scenario” in their own polities.

            In their fevered dreams, the events in Macedonia were a foreign-orchestrated coup, the doings of Anglo-European operatives, and likely funded by that menace of “nationally conscious” regimes the world over, George Soros.

            The one thing they could not allow their respective publics to believe was that the events in Macedonia were an indigenous, grassroots reaction to years of corruption, cronyism and increasing chauvinism and authoritarianism by the Gruevski regime – a combination of qualities essentially identical to what we still see in most of the region.

            After all, if the response in Macedonia to decades of kleptocracy was to oust the regime, and if the consequence of doing that was a quick boost to the country’s socio-economic and strategic welfare – why not do the same in Serbia or Bosnia?

            Why not attempt the same in Kosovo or even in Montenegro either, the one country in the region that has not seen a change in government in nearly three decades?

            There are any number of responses one might muster to such an inquiry. As Macedonia’s former ruling VMRO-DPMNE party showed repeatedly over the past year, and most shockingly in the storming of the Macedonia parliament in April 2017, even when they are pushed to the brink, such regimes will not cede power peacefully.

            They are willing to risk outright civil war if they calculate – like the architects of Yugoslavia’s dissolution – that such bloodshed will keep them in power.

            This is why Macedonia’s experience over the last two years is so instructive: faced with one of the most repressive regimes in the region, Macedonians mobilized, organized and agitated until they had defeated the Gruevski government, and, in the process, rebooted the democratic project in their country.

            It is up to leaders in Skopje, Athens, Brussels and even Washington to ensure that the courage shown by Macedonian citizens will not have been in vain.

            Meanwhile, in the rest of the region, we impatiently await the next burst of color.
            “There’s a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can’t take part, you can’t even passively take part, and you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus and you’ve got to make it stop, and you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will be prevented from working at all” - Mario Savio

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            • Liberator of Makedonija
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2014
              • 1595

              Australian journalist did a write-up on Rockdale Ilinden where he claims the club was founded by "Northern" Macedonian migrants and named after the Ilinden "-Preobrazhenie" Uprising.

              I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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              • Risto the Great
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 15658

                The unicorn revolution was truly a master stroke of a magical penis.
                Risto the Great
                MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                • kompir
                  Member
                  • Jan 2015
                  • 537

                  Originally posted by Tomche Makedonche View Post
                  If you find yourself throwing up in your mouth whilst reading the below, you're not alone
                  Short answer, I just saw my lunch again.

                  The longer answer, it's reprehensible how universities and their noble quest of expanding knowledge, understanding and ultimately wisdom has been subverted by corrupted and cashed up vested interests. What I don't get is how the people that write shit like this live with themselves knowing they are not only wrong, but tarnish the reputation and credibility of all their colleagues, those engaged in real world research and those within the academic bubble.

                  Originally posted by Liberator of Makedonija View Post
                  Australian journalist did a write-up on Rockdale Ilinden where he claims the club was founded by "Northern" Macedonian migrants and named after the Ilinden "-Preobrazhenie" Uprising.

                  https://dailyfootballshow.com/magici...and-cairns-fc/
                  Mafni go, copile kengursko pojma nema.
                  Доста бе Вегето една, во секоја манџа се мешаш

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                  • Vangelovski
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 8531

                    North is the new slav. It only took a couple of decades to get media outlets to stop saying slav Macedonians, now they've taken up Northern Macedonians which wasn't even part of the agreement but a natural consequence of renaming the state.
                    If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land. 2 Chronicles 7:14

                    The Revolution was in the minds and hearts of the people; a change in their religious sentiments, of their duties and obligations...This radical change in the principles, opinions, sentiments, and affections of the people was the real American Revolution. John Adams

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                    • Pelagonija
                      Member
                      • Mar 2017
                      • 533

                      Can anyone bring themselves to watch North Macedonia in a football match? I’ve been to more Maco matches than the Socceroos, having said that I don’t I can bring myself to do so anymore, I feel extremely humiliated and degraded.. it jus rubs me the wrong way.

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                      • Risto the Great
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 15658

                        It's been fyrom for 20 plus years. What's the difference?
                        Risto the Great
                        MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                        "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                        Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                        • Pelagonija
                          Member
                          • Mar 2017
                          • 533

                          Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                          It's been fyrom for 20 plus years. What's the difference?
                          The difference is that we’ve been calling ourselves Macedonians, in addition to being recognised by most of the world as such. Now we are going to change our name, identity as well as alter our educational system to appease the fascist Greeks and neo liberal globalists. We are even going to change our number plates.

                          The kids will be taught about Zaev at school in the same light as che Guevara.

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                          • Pelagonija
                            Member
                            • Mar 2017
                            • 533

                            Another article blaming Russians for everything else in order to justify bad government and fascist globalist policies. FFS they even blamed the Russians for killing Babchenko the journalist who staged his own death. Now they are blaming the Macedonia name change on Russia

                            “The Republic of North Macedonia” —this is the new name that the Macedonian government agreed to on June 17 in an effort to unblock the country’s integration into EU and NATO. For the Macedonian government, joining the West warranted the prefix North. Finding the country’s true North, however, will be...
                            Last edited by Pelagonija; 06-22-2018, 07:10 AM.

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                            • Risto the Great
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 15658

                              Originally posted by Pelagonija View Post
                              The difference is that we’ve been calling ourselves Macedonians, in addition to being recognised by most of the world as such. Now we are going to change our name, identity as well as alter our educational system to appease the fascist Greeks and neo liberal globalists. We are even going to change our number plates.

                              The kids will be taught about Zaev at school in the same light as che Guevara.
                              They will still call themselves Macedonian and be oblivious to external realities. I honestly can't see much of a difference.
                              Risto the Great
                              MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                              "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                              Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                              • Bill77
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 4545

                                It's official..... Macedonia has become a totalitarian state.

                                If I'm understanding this right.... 400 euro fine for anyone recording using a dash cam or Building security camera. Only police are allowed to record.

                                http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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