Dividing Macedonians Again: 10 New holidays for 10 new minorities

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  • Niko777
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2010
    • 1895

    Dividing Macedonians Again: 10 New holidays for 10 new minorities

    Government declares 10 New National Holidays for the Smaller minorities in North Macedonia:

    Slovenians
    Hungarians
    Poles
    Balkan Egyptians
    Croats
    Montenegrins
    Armenians
    Bulgarians
    Greeks
    Russians


    Source: https://www.mkd.mk/makedonija/politi...-vo-makedonija
    Last edited by Niko777; 06-24-2019, 09:06 PM.
  • Gocka
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 2306

    #2
    What a load of shit. In the last census with the exception of the Roma population, those other 9 ethnic groups fell into the "all other" category, which in total was 1% of the population. Even the Roma/Aromanians combined made up 3.7%

    So 9 national holidays for 9 ethnic groups that make up at most 1% of the population combined. How many Hungarians, Poles, Russians, and Armenians live in Macedonia, 100 families combined. Same goes for the others too. Apart from Balkan Egyptians, which I assume is Roma, none of those groups have any measurable presence.

    So lets give Alexander to the Greeks, Delcev to the Bulgarians, and lets celebrate, cultures that are not only completely foreign, but don't even exist in Macedonia.

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    • VMRO
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 1462

      #3
      Wow, what a joke.
      Verata vo Mislite, VMRO vo dushata, Makedonia vo Srceto.

      Vnatreshna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija.

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      • Tomche Makedonche
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2011
        • 1123

        #4
        I guess this is what they meant when they were referring to “European” Macedonia...
        “There’s a time when the operation of the machine becomes so odious, makes you so sick at heart, that you can’t take part, you can’t even passively take part, and you’ve got to put your bodies upon the gears and upon the wheels, upon the levers, upon all the apparatus and you’ve got to make it stop, and you’ve got to indicate to the people who run it, to the people who own it, that unless you’re free, the machine will be prevented from working at all” - Mario Savio

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        • Risto the Great
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 15658

          #5
          I think it's great. Every minority wins a prize. I'm waiting for the gay Greek pride day. I'll call him up and personally wish him well.
          Risto the Great
          MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
          "Holding my breath for the revolution."

          Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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          • Niko777
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2010
            • 1895

            #6
            This country has been deceiving us since day one. What was supposed to be nation state of Macedonians, it has turned into a country that prevents its citizens from becoming Macedonian.

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            • Liberator of Makedonija
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2014
              • 1595

              #7
              This just makes no sense. National holidays for large minorities yeah alright, but why holidays for these minorities who each would have less than 100 members? Most of them would have migrated to Macedonia in the last few decades as well (minus the Armenians).
              I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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              • VMRO
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 1462

                #8
                Sounds like more initiatives for the criminals in power to misuse funds and receive some kick backs.
                Verata vo Mislite, VMRO vo dushata, Makedonia vo Srceto.

                Vnatreshna Makedonska Revolucionerna Organizacija.

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                • maco2envy
                  Member
                  • Jan 2015
                  • 288

                  #9
                  This hasn't passed right?

                  They also forgot the national day of japan for the 2 japanese folk in northistan

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                  • sydney
                    Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 390

                    #10
                    Every day is a holiday for them.

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                    • Rogi
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 2343

                      #11
                      This makes absolute sense, when de-Macedonization is the agenda.

                      If you were to try and create a new identity, one that is not based on ethnic concepts or nation-state concepts, but rather a cosmopolitan one, you would take away the name and the deeper ancient roots (Macedonian name, ancient claims, institutional names renamed from Macedonian to 'national', giving up Cyrilus & Methodius, Tsar Samuel, etc via Prespa Agreement and Bulgarian Agreement), then you'd take away the roots that inspire national pride and identity such as more recent history and heroes (Goce Delcev, Ilinden, etc via Bulgarian agreement) and then you'd demote the importance and position of the dominant ethnic identity by prioritising others (language law, national celebrations of other holidays, etc) to create more and more confusion.

                      The last step might be to introduce another batch of people into the mix (like the refugees waiting to be settled) to help shift the ethnic balance further away from the dominant identity.

                      Give that one generation of co-existence and inter-marriage and you've just about wiped out the Macedonian identity and created a new, cosmopolitan identity that is based on citizenship, not nationality. The Greeks have already proven much of the formula with their de-nationalisation and assimilation of the Macedonians inthe Aegean part of Macedonia.

                      From a foreigners perspective, who doesn't care about the fact that it is essentially cultural genocide, they'd see it as a model for stabilising the region. Roll that out more widely and you can have a federation, because with no cultural competition or protection, nobody cares about the borders or who governs.

                      Easy enough to do when you have a passified nation who wont revolt.
                      Last edited by Rogi; 06-26-2019, 08:43 AM.

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                      • Niko777
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 1895

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Rogi View Post
                        Give that one generation of co-existence and inter-marriage and you've just about wiped out the Macedonian identity and created a new, cosmopolitan identity that is based on citizenship, not nationality. The Greeks have already proven much of the formula with their de-nationalisation and assimilation of the Macedonians inthe Aegean part of Macedonia.
                        Yes but in Greece they enforced the "Greek" identity and Greek language on every ethnic group. In North Macedonia, they are not enforcing the "Macedonian" identity or language on people, instead they are adopting a Yugoslav model where the country is made up of many different ethnic groups, each with their own identity and language, paving the way for federalization.

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