South Slavic tribes

[tchaiku]

Originally Posted by Carlin15

What do you mean by too northern?

Less Mediterranean in appearance/genes.

[Carlin15]

Well, I guess it's possible there were some Thracians as well (and not northern Dacians - but I find it unlikely). Overall I think the Slavs who came were mixed with Scythians/Sarmatians and Avars.

[Carlin15]

Vlahorinhini

During the second half of the 7th century (650-700), Pervoundos, the ruler of the "Sklavinia" of the Rinhini, was accused of conspiracy against Salonica, and thus arrested, was imprisoned in Constantinople and eventually executed by the "Byzantines" in 674. Prior to his arrest, Pervoundos moved comfortably between his "Sklavinia" and Salonica, contacted and seemed to work closely with the Byzantine authorities, he certainly spoke Greek and showed he had the comfort of a ruler with deep roots in the area. The news of the execution of Pervoundos caused a rebellion of the Sklavenians around Salonica and especially of the Rinhini (between Salonica and Asprovalta), Strymonites (in the estuary of Strymonas) and Sagoudates (probably in the area between Salonica, Veria and Olympus).

Although with a first view the revolutionaries are treated as Slavic populations, there are serious indications that they were Vlachs or at least a mixture of Vlachs and Slavs, judging at least from non-Slavic and probably Latin origin the name of the Pervoundos and the Latin name of the Sagoudates. Perhaps these references to Rinhini and Sagoudates are some of the early boosters for the existence and survival in the Balkan territories of "Byzantium", and particularly around Salonica, of an older and indigenous Latin-speaking population, albeit in a mixture with Slavic and other populations, which gradually gave birth to the Vlachs.

The guesswork for the survival of Latins among the populations around Salonica and collectively described as Sklavini-Slavs is reinforced by a story provided by the sources of the "Miracles of St. Demetrius". The anonymous writer, referring to the "Slavs" who had been defeated and dispersed by Justinian's army at the end of the 7th century, denotes their families and their homes with two Latin words -- the words "φαμίλια/familia" and "κάσα/casa", which was probably borrowed from their own language.

URL:
http://www.vlachs.gr/el/oi-olimpioi-...-vlahorichinoi

[Carlin15]

Were the Antes north Pontic Goths?

How about this my friends? Dr. Bohdan Struminski has argued and concluded that the Antes were most likely north Pontic Goths (ancestors of the Crimean Goths), rather than Slavs, let alone Eastern Slavs.

To use his concluding words: this conclusion may sadden some Macedonians, who have become accustomed to consider Antes as their glorious Slavic ancestors.

Please let me know if you'd like to read all pages. I am only attaching a few pages here.

Related URL - Linguistic Interrelations in Early Rus': Northmen, Finns, and East Slavs, Bohdan Struminski:
http://www.ciuspress.com/catalogue/l...nd-east-slavs&