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Old 06-05-2017, 01:17 PM   #31
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LMAO those Greek and Persian intermarriages had me rolling, are those indeed half Greeks or is this an other neo-Greek history trick?
They must've loved each other very much.
This is the Persian Kingdom of Pontus which after a while allied and intermarried with the Seleucid Empire and was also gradually Hellenized.
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Old 09-26-2017, 01:41 PM   #32
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Ionia, at a later period, was totally devastated by the Saracens, so that few vestiges of ancient civilization remain.
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The composition of the Aegean population is very interesting since it consists of six different national and cultural groups. Apart from Greek-speaking Christian orthodox, namely the most multitudinous group, we also find: 1) Muslims mostly on the northeastern Aegean islands and some of the Dodecanese (e.g. Kos, Rhodes), 2) Albanians, mostly on the Argosaronic gulf islands, the northeastern Aegean and on some Cycladic islands (e.g. Andros, Ios, Kea and Kythnos), 3) Jews on Rhodes, Kos and Lesvos, 4) Armenian communities with a few members on Rhodes, Lesbos and Naxos and 5) Catholics, mostly on the Cyclads, with their most significant communities being on Syros, Tinos, Naxos, Thera, Milos, Paros and Sifnos.
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Old 09-26-2017, 09:39 PM   #34
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This is the Persian Kingdom of Pontus which after a while allied and intermarried with the Seleucid Empire and was also gradually Hellenized.
Hellenized by a Macedonian state? What...
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Old 01-21-2018, 07:44 AM   #35
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In this article, focusing on the situation prevailing in the islands of the Aegean in the Middle Ages, listed unknown and rare testimonies of numerous travelers, which in the timespan of hundreds of years describe many islands as uninhabited, completely deserted.

Large scourges were wars, frequent deadly epidemics and piracy, due to which thousands of residents of the islands dragged as slaves in the bazaars of the East. Population gaps replenished from time to time various groups of people from other places, such as North Africa, the East and in many cases, as we shall see, poor Albanians.

The article is based on excerpts translated from the works of the English historian and archaeologist Frederick William Hasluck (1878-1920): «Depopulation in the Aegean Islands and the Turkish Conquest» (The Annual of the British School at Athens, Vol. 17, 1910 / 1911, pp. 151-181) and «Albanian Settlements in the Aegean islands» (The Annual of the British School at Athens, Vol. 15, 1908/1909, pp. 223-228).


The table below (which I translated from Greek using Google Translate) is a summary of research on desolation and the restocking of the islands in the period before the Cretan War (and, apparently this is historical data only for a period from roughly 14th century to 17th century. What happened in antiquity? What happened in the all the centuries preceding the 14th c.?).



Conclusion from the article:

"… in three similar periods of unrest in the Aegean region there are significant population movements: During the Cretan War (1645-1669), during the Orloff revolt (1770-1774) and the period of '21 (1821-1830).

Yet, until now we thought that the population of the islands has never changed since ancient times and that even the dialects are directly related to ancient dialects.

But historical data can’t be denied that although the islanders boast that they are purebred descendants of the ancient Greeks (though in ancient times the intermarriage was not something unknown), the island populations have undergone significant racial changes even a few centuries ago."
Can you re upload the picture somewhere else? (if you still have the photo)
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Can you re upload the picture somewhere else? (if you still have the photo)
If you follow the link of the first line you will find this table at the right side of the bottom. Yet, you should be warned that all the data are false. No devastated island was ever totally abandoned, especially the big ones.
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Can you re upload the picture somewhere else? (if you still have the photo)
This one?

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The folk costumes, garb, etc. of Pontians mostly come from the ethnic Laz people.

Pay close attention to the photos below and what is written on them (in French, i.e. Lazes, Costume Laze, Danse nationale Laze...). On some sites/blogs of today's Pontian-Greeks some of these photos are used as Freedom Fighters of Pontus.









It should be added in the country of Lazes (Lazica / Lasika) the church and only written language was Greek.


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This one?

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If you follow the link of the first line you will find this table at the right side of the bottom. Yet, you should be warned that all the data are false. No devastated island was ever totally abandoned, especially the big ones.
I do not speak Greek though this is why I asked but thank you for your warning.

Hydra was entirely Albanian after the Dark Ages.

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