Is the term ''ethnic Macedonians'' offensive?

[tchaiku]

Is the term ''ethnic Macedonians'' offensive?

[Risto the Great]

Not in the least.

[Vangelovski]

Its not offensive, but I think it can be misused. I've seen articles, even by Macedonians, that refer to Serbs, Greeks and ethnic Macedonians. There is no reason to qualify Macedonians unless they're also using 'ethnic' for the Serbs, Greeks and others. That fact that they do is almost like they're trying to de-legitimise Macedonians.

[Liberator of Makedonija]

Ethnic Macedonian can sometimes imply there is another type of Macedonian, which there isn't.

[Risto the Great]

But there is another type of Macedonian. Ethnic Albanians living in Macedonia are Macedonians. Just as I'm an Australian who is an ethnic Macedonian.

[DirtyCodingHabitz]

But there is another type of Macedonian. Ethnic Albanians living in Macedonia are Macedonians. Just as I'm an Australian who is an ethnic Macedonian.

Nationality and ethnicity are two different things

[Risto the Great]

Hence the reason for distinction.

[Odi Zvezdo]

Is the term ''ethnic Macedonians'' offensive?

Any more offensive then being called a Skop, Fyromian, Gypsy or Slav?

[vicsinad]

It certainly isn't offensive. Though Vangelovski brings up a good point.

[Liberator of Makedonija]

How often do Albanians have a Macedonian national identity though? In the cases of Vlach and Roma then yes maybe but unlikely amongst Albanians.

[Risto the Great]

How often do Albanians have a Macedonian national identity though? In the cases of Vlach and Roma then yes maybe but unlikely amongst Albanians.

Well, you have stated there are Macedonian Vlachs and Macedonian Roma. There are also ethnic Macedonians. And there are Macedonian Albanians. How ethnic Albanians of Macedonia choose to refer to themselves is a different issue in my opinion.

[Liberator of Makedonija]

Well, you have stated there are Macedonian Vlachs and Macedonian Roma. There are also ethnic Macedonians. And there are Macedonian Albanians. How ethnic Albanians of Macedonia choose to refer to themselves is a different issue in my opinion.

A Macedonian refers to someone with a Macedonian national identity, I have never heard of this happening for an Albanian from Macedonia. Don't forget that the Vlach situations refer to famous Macedonians such as Pitu Guli and Toše Proeski.

[Risto the Great]

Why do they have to be famous? What if you're an Albanian working in a post office? What if you, as an Albanian living in Macedonia, also speak Macedonian and have life experiences that bind you to Macedonia?

Do you make a distinction between a national identity and an ethnic identity? It seems you do. If you indeed make the distinction, I can't see how you could exclude ethnic Albanians from this logic.

[tchaiku]

Which one is more insulting "Skopian" or "FYROMIAN"?

[vicsinad]

Which one is more insulting "Skopian" or "FYROMIAN"?

What's your point with this thread?

If you're really interested in knowing, then go up to some Macedonians in person and call them one or the other and determine which is more insulting by their responses.