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  • Sputnik
    Junior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 50

    THE DICTATORSHIP OF THE EUROPEAN UNION



    In a true democracy, all power resides with the people.

    eg; EXECUTIVE LEVEL -President/Government
    LEGISLATIVE LEVEL - Parliament (which both check and balance each other)
    The people vote them in.


    The EU lacks this fundamental principle of seperation of powers. Moreover, the people of Europe have
    neither control over the executive level nor over the Legislative process. The Parliament they elect
    has no means of effectively controlling these branches either.

    To hide this inpotence, Article 225- the so-called 'Fig Leaf Article' was inserted into the "Lisbon Treaty"
    This clause offers a possibility for the EU Parliament to "Request the commission to submit a proposal" for legislation.
    The commission, of course, can simply refuse to do so.
    (see http://europa.eu/lisbon_treaty/index_en.htm).

    Operating outside the basic principles of democracy, the Brussels EU by definition is a dictatorship.
    The power of the people to determine their government has been transfered to corporate interests.



    BRUSSELS EU DICTATORSHIP:

    CORPORATE INTERESTS (Oil and Drug Cartels) elects and controls (the executive).

    \/

    EXECUTIVE AND LEGISLATIVE LEVEL
    *EU Commission
    *Appointed President
    (commission controls Legislative Process).

    If the ultimate power no longer resides with the people, democracy becomes dictatorship.

    The *EU Commission (That controls Legislative Process) and *Appointed President..... controls EU PARLIAMENT (Who has no right for independent lawmaking)


    THE PEOPLE: (Unlike in a true democracy, in the EU the power no longer
    resides with the people),
    Do not vote the President or EU commission (which these unalected become uncountable). Though the people do vote (just to make them feel part of it) the EU PARLIAMENT which sadly, have No right for independent lawmaking.


    Czech president compares EU to Soviet-era dictatorship
    New York Times, 9 November 2009


    Big tobacco distorted EU treaty, scientists say
    EU Observer, 13 January 2010
    http://euobserver.com/9/29252

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    • George S.
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2009
      • 10116

      Economy Expert: Macedonia Very Lucky Not to be in Eurozone

      Economy Expert: Macedonia Very Lucky Not to be in Eurozone



      Monday, 10 October 2011





      Macedonia should be grateful and count its blessings for not being part of the eurozone and able to keep the competitiveness of its economy, says Martin O. Hutchinson, former advisor of the Macedonian Government, in an interview with Voice of America.

      Hutchinson believes that the Greek debt crisis does not mean too much to Europe.

      "This is a correction of the mistakes made in 1981 and 2002, clearing up of the disturbance created through over-subsidizing of Greece, allowing its living standard to be fully uncompetitive. The problem now is that stock markets have expanded the mistrust over the payment capability of other European countries. This could have been resolved by bringing back the drachma, but is now a threat to the entire European Union", says Hutchinson.

      According to him, the Greek debt and eurozone crises could have an effect on Macedonia.

      "In the short-term, export to Greece will be heavily hit, whereas investments there will reduce. The problem in the long-term will be that EU enlargement will slow down, while the accession criteria will become stricter", stresses Hutchinson.

      Asked what steps should the Macedonian Government undertake in order to minimize the negative effect on the economy he says efforts should be invested in creating a budget surplus.

      "I have not analyzed Macedonia's economy for several years, but the most important thing is to preserve the international funding of Macedonia's needs, especially in the private sector. The government must do everything in creating a budget surplus, since a sharp increase of expenditures is quite realistic", adds Hutchinson.

      He believes Macedonia should efficiently integrate its economy with the EU as a whole, which would result in Union membership.

      "On the short run, all business contacts with EU member-states, excluding Greece, will enhance development and help the upping of Macedonia's living standards at EU levels", underlines Hutchinson.

      An investment banker with more than 25 years’ experience, Hutchinson has worked on both Wall Street and Fleet Street and is a leading expert on the international financial markets. In February 2000, as part of the Financial Services Volunteer Corps, Hutchinson became an advisor to the Macedonian Government.
      "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
      GOTSE DELCEV

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      • Zarni
        Banned
        • May 2011
        • 672

        Basically you dont have to be a member of the EU to trade with EU member Ststes and have investors from them invest in your Country

        You do have to be a member if this union if you are a politician and want to become rich

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        • Risto the Great
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 15658

          For some people this is as difficult as rocket science to comprehend.
          But for others it is obvious to see that Macedonia can be extremely competitive and enjoy it's unique position in Europe. Anyone thinking this will happen without working hard must be Greek.
          Risto the Great
          MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
          "Holding my breath for the revolution."

          Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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          • Sputnik
            Junior Member
            • Oct 2011
            • 50

            Propaganda or lessons for the future?
            Assimilation or integration?





            We need more the likes of William Dartmouth.
            euronews the network - Propaganda or lessons for the future? - YouTube

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            • George S.
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 10116

              the eu is not what it's made to be particularly of member states with their huuge deficits.I
              wonder if new members are held responsible for others debts.??
              "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
              GOTSE DELCEV

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              • Risto the Great
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 15658

                Originally posted by George S. View Post
                I wonder if new members are held responsible for others debts.??
                There is no need to wonder. This is a fact. Macedonia is so desperate to be swept up in this mess that it confounds me.
                Risto the Great
                MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                • DedoAleko
                  Member
                  • Jun 2009
                  • 969

                  Western Balkans:Leveraging Weakness–Analysis

                  Western Balkans: Leveraging Weakness – Analysis

                  Faced with outstanding conflicts over sovereignty in the Western Balkans, the EU’s most efficacious strategy depends upon acknowledging and leveraging its own considerable limitations as an international actor.

                  By David B. Kanin

                  The EU’s institutions have grown in parallel with its efforts to manage the Balkans. Yugoslavia fell apart at about the same time as the high-flown rhetoric associated with the Maastricht Treaty raised hopes for the gradual, but inexorable, development of a unified, influential, prosperous “Europe.” The ability of European paladins to pronounce solutions – and have local protagonists follow their instructions – quickly became an indicator of whether this would-be entity could be taken seriously regarding security problems in its backyard and farther afield. In a sense, the headlines accompanying each new Balkan horror helped European politicians distract critics who, from the outset, questioned the project of a common currency and financial system which did not take seriously the fact that several of its members never met the criteria established for joining the club.

                  Two decades on, the record is not good. EU missions in Bosnia and Kosovo have the respect neither of Balkan communities, nor of an American partner the Europeans so much wanted to avoid having to rely on. Europe’s failure to manage its own financial affairs and Europe’s irrelevance in the Middle East have reinforced its diminished influence in southeastern Europe.
                  Balkans

                  Balkans

                  The trajectory of communal relations in Mostar serves as a good indicator of the larger problem. In the early nineties the Europeans focused on the town as a place they could use to prove the EU’s efficacy as a security actor. They proposed a solution that (in effect, not on purpose) would have favored Bosnjak over Croat interests. The latter objected, of course, and the Europeans found themselves engaged in a tussle they had not thought through between communal authorities increasingly involved in a zero-sum game. Bosnjak-Croat fighting in 1993, the Washington Agreement signed the following February (in which the US not Europe, played the central role), Dayton, and subsequent ad hoc diplomacy led to the current rickety municipal arrangement—which will work until it does not. Regarding Mostar and the broader Balkan trajectory, the Europeans at best can be credited with stumbling into a stalemate that has done little to demonstrate their ability to effectively practice conflict management.

                  Still, no matter how feckless its performance, EU membership remains the central goal of every state in the region (albeit in the context of considerable public skepticism over the value of being inside the Union). Without the European mantra, most Balkan politicians would lack anything approximating a vision with which to convince constituents to trust their future to them. Without this brass ring, no matter how far it remains out of reach, many in the Balkans would feel what philosophers call aporia, the sense that there is no direction they can go, no constructive future they can hope for.

                  This gives the Europeans a significant opportunity to redirect their approach to a region in which their current policies cannot succeed. The EU should declare that membership is possible only for those Balkan countries not saddled by outstanding conflicts over sovereignty. It should stop demanding one solution or denouncing another – and should definitely kill the rhetoric that tells the locals the only possible way forward is whatever the Europeans or Americans are demanding at a particular point in time.

                  Further, the EU should declare they will resume discussions about possible membership with Serbia, Bosnia, Kosova and Montenegro only when all sides to contested sovereignty have forged deals agreed to by relevant parliaments and/or publics. It would no longer favor the usual Wilsonian teleology. Whether new status quos involve “civic” or “ethnic” arrangements based on inertial, Tito-era borders, new partitions, population swaps or hybrid combinations of some or all of these would be solely the choice – and responsibility – of the protagonists. Simultaneously, the EU would reduce its regional footprint drastically, consolidating a residual presence into a single monitoring mission (call it EU-Zen) that would give technical advice when asked, but otherwise stay out of local squabbles. (In this context, the closure of the European police mission and ongoing reduction of the European force in Bosnia would become positive, strategic developments).

                  The Europeans would make it clear they would not consider offering membership in cases where violence is used to force a solution. They also would underscore that they are not promising in advance to accept automatically any solution reached by parties in disputes over sovereignty. Otherwise, the EU no longer would claim authority to meddle in the Balkans and would turn its attention to much more important internal problems. In short, the EU would serve notice that, from now on, solutions to Balkan disputes would depend on these becoming more important to those directly involved than to outside powers’ pretensions to international leadership.

                  There should be one exception to this minimalist turn. One country in the Balkans has worked hard to manage inter-communal problems and (no matter Western claims that there are no military solutions in the Balkans and despite local violence in 2001 and 2004) so far is perhaps the only Yugoslav successor state to avoid the use of force as a central determinant of its current status quo.

                  The European Union should admit Macedonia to membership as quickly and with as little scrutiny as it did Romania and Bulgaria. If they have any backbone, EU decision makers will steamroll the Greek objection, informing Athens that its silly attitude toward Macedonia’s name poses a security threat and no longer will be tolerated. The pain Greece has helped inflicted on Europe justifies making further financial aid – and conditioning continued Greek membership in the Club – on Athens conceding what never should have been an issue in the first place. Greece, like other Balkan states, would have to focus on taking responsibility for its own problems.

                  There is no question that the Ohrid Agreement – which is as much the country’s basic law as is its constitution – has its flaws and remains at risk. Further, Macedonian prime minister, Nikola Gruevski, is often tone deaf regarding legitimate complaints from the country’s ethnic Albanian community, and – as leader of that community – Ali Ahmeti faces serious challenges on his nationalist flank. Skopje’s own silliness regarding airport names and statue-building has not helped its cause.

                  Nevertheless, alone among the pieces of the former Yugoslavia south of the Sava, politicians in Macedonia have forged a consociational system that since the early nineties has held together a place surrounded by states either questioning aspects of its identity, or else serving as an alternative Albanian Homeland. This constructive context made it possible for the small Nordic and American military presence to serve a successful – lower case – peacekeeping role while the rest of the region was in turmoil.

                  The Western diplomatic record in Macedonia also is unique in the region. Rather than attempting to force civic ideology, most Americans and European on the ground (there have been some imperious exceptions) have taken a properly zen-like approach in support of a generally constructive situation, albeit marked from time-to-time by security threats and frustrations. Fast-tracking Macedonia’s admission to the EU would reinforce a changed European approach, which would reward countries that do the work of forging their own futures, rather than those skillful at manipulating larger powers into taking over those responsibilities (including becoming the lightening rod for blame more properly placed on local politicians, Big Men cum “businessmen,” and other Balkan actors).

                  The EU should relocate its smaller, redesigned monitoring and mentoring mission to its new Macedonian member. Politicians from supplicant Balkan states should have to swallow coming ‘hat in hand’ to a place that would have leapfrogged them by doing the work others have studiously avoided.

                  It may be that communities choose the option of discarding their candidacies for EU membership in favor of some alternative. Serbia, for one, could choose Russia. If so, the West should let it do so. The Russo-Serbian relationship is not as close as sometimes advertised, and – in the absence of a Western foil – Serbs soon would learn the limits of subsuming their interests to the whims of a power interested mainly in pursuing a narrow, late 19th century-style strategy directed solely at opposing whatever appears to be the preferences of the United States.

                  For too long, the Balkans has been a region where local actors are able to lure larger powers into interventions inimical to those outside players’ own interests, unsuccessful regarding the management of local disputes and sometimes dangerous to everyone involved. The EU has a chance to break free of this pathology, but only if it overcomes its rhetoric (which masks a version of strategic aporia) and accepts that its most efficacious strategy depends on acknowledging and leveraging its own considerable limitations as an international actor.

                  David B. Kanin is an adjunct professor of international relations at Johns Hopkins University and a former senior intelligence analyst for the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA).

                  izvor: http://www.eurasiareview.com/0911201...ness-analysis/

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                  • Soldier of Macedon
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 13670

                    There is no question that the Ohrid Agreement – which is as much the country’s basic law as is its constitution – has its flaws and remains at risk. Further, Macedonian prime minister, Nikola Gruevski, is often tone deaf regarding legitimate complaints from the country’s ethnic Albanian community, and – as leader of that community – Ali Ahmeti faces serious challenges on his nationalist flank.
                    Is this guy for real? Gruevski has not only worked towards the implementation of the treacherous 'Ohrid Agreement', he has recently granted amnesty to Albanian terrorists.
                    Skopje’s own silliness regarding airport names and statue-building has not helped its cause.
                    He regards Greece's stupid attitude as 'silly' yet at the same time he says the same about Macedonia celebrating its cultural heritage. Same tired garbage from the same tired people. The EU wants Macedonia to change its name. I hope Macedonia never joins that blood-sucking organisation.
                    In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                    • George S.
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2009
                      • 10116

                      O well why bother to join.Apparently australa might be asked to contribute through the imf .
                      "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                      GOTSE DELCEV

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                      • Sputnik
                        Junior Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 50

                        Greece has a new Prime Minister.

                        Lucas Papademos.

                        *A former European Central Bank vice president.

                        *A former governor of the Bank of Greece when the country adopted the euro in 2001. (Here is your answer on how Greece entered the Euro and who would have played a major part in altering figures on books. A fucken former European central bank vice president. Surprise surprise).

                        *He was an adviser to outgoing Prime Minister George Papandreou on economic matters for the last two years. (A EU mole)


                        Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to the dictatorship of the Brussels EU. The new Anti Christ. Europe should be afraid......very afraid.
                        Last edited by Sputnik; 11-10-2011, 09:07 AM.

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                        • Onur
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 2389

                          Probably another former official of ECB will be appointed as a PM to Italy in a month.


                          Costas Lapavitsas, a Greek professor of economics from the university of London;
                          Last rites for the Euro - YouTube

                          They finally killed democracy in Europe.

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                          • George S.
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 10116

                            theres talks of a bailout for italy to the tune of 1.3 trillion dollars eu.Ewhether the austerity measuresare enough is another matter big possibility for italy to go like greece.Looks like the eu is starting to disintergrate before our eyes.
                            "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                            GOTSE DELCEV

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                            • Onur
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 2389

                              No one, no institution can possibly set up a bailout for trillion dollars. Not IMF, nor ECB. Also, no one can possibly convince western European taxpayers to give trillion euros to Italy.

                              Greek bailout is a bit more than 100 million euros and we see whats happening about that. Therefore, a trillion dollars worth bailout is impossible.

                              So, if Italy goes bust just as Greece, they will definitely leave euro zone and return to Lira to be able to save their own economy. This would technically mean the failure of euro zone. Sarkozy says, "if euro zone fails then EU fails".

                              We can say that if Italy goes bust, then EU project would totally collapse in matter of months.

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                              • makedonche
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 3242

                                Originally posted by Onur View Post
                                No one, no institution can possibly set up a bailout for trillion dollars. Not IMF, nor ECB. Also, no one can possibly convince western European taxpayers to give trillion euros to Italy.

                                Greek bailout is a bit more than 100 million euros and we see whats happening about that. Therefore, a trillion dollars worth bailout is impossible.

                                So, if Italy goes bust just as Greece, they will definitely leave euro zone and return to Lira to be able to save their own economy. This would technically mean the failure of euro zone. Sarkozy says, "if euro zone fails then EU fails".

                                We can say that if Italy goes bust, then EU project would totally collapse in matter of months.
                                Onur
                                Can't wait till it happens - bunch of authoritarian eurocrats! Finally an opportunity for a democratic process to be commenced - one door closes another one opens!
                                On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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