Supporters of DUI wreck scaffolding of Kale church museum

[Volk]

Just to summarize the final outcome:

Albanian ministers stop police from arresting albanians.

Police move Macedonians off Kale, albanians take their place.

Koja drzava e ovaa

[fyrOM]

Koja drzava e ovaa

Ehh good question Volk in most countries no one is supposed to be above the law and even ministers can be arrested with reason. A better question would be is it a country based on law or mafia style might.

[Niko777]

Yes it all comes down to Gruevski not losing his coalition with Ahmeti.

[Pelister]

The new arrivals hate Macedonian Christianity because it reminds them that they have no culture, no literature, no churches of their own. The Albanian Church is a Turkish one. I think that the Macedonian government has to protect its cultural monuments against Albanian aggression. Who would have thought it was possible, that in this day and age our Churches are STILL UNDER ATTACK. Something has to be done about this, if we can't protect our cultural monuments, what is the good of having a government?

[Volk]

A better question would be is it a country based on law or mafia style might.

I think we all know the answer to that question

[Frank]

An Albanian mob together with a Elected Minister vandalise and destroy a State Object. the Minister in question is clearly seen on Video Footage present, in a Normal Country arrests are made and a publicly elected official is sacked and charges put foward against him.

The Kale is a UNESCO registered site which has many locations marked for retortion funded by the State, UNESCO, EU Projects not to mention USAID. The Church structure are the remains of a 13C Christian site. The Shiptar Geg response is not to have the character the City changed to reflect anything outside of what they see fit, in other words they have no valid reasons but Albanian Nationalism.

The Macedonian response nil to nothing, we see the Shiptars are organised and also have the support of diplomatic corps, whilst all we can hope for is a bunch of Kids to care whilst the populace remain farked up the arse and our Politicians leave it well alone so to continue the DUI Coalition

So what will be the outcome to this, there is no doubt the site works will grinded to a complete halt

[Pelister]

Your right Frank. Assuming an Albanian minister was present during the vandalism, he needs to be questioned, and I think every Albanian caught on camera attacking a Macedonian cultural monument should have their citizenship revoked without question. Clearly they don't obey the law because there is no law. If they won't obey the law, perhaps we can use the law to get rid of them.

[Volk]

I have a feeling this was all orchestrated by the ruling coalition to take attention away from the opposition walking out of parliament and government problems.

Maybe this is how they get ready for early elections, build up some nationalism, seems pretty rudimentary...

[George S.]

volk you're right it's a slap in the face the gruevski govt will do nothing they will just concede.I think the solution should be civil unrest for ordinary macedonians take up arms
& house by house root out these albanian animals until there is none left.

[Pelister]

volk you're right it's a slap in the face the gruevski govt will do nothing they will just concede.I think the solution should be civil unrest for ordinary macedonians take up arms
& house by house root out these albanian animals until there is none left.

That is not possible.

What the government can do is this:

1. Spend billions building up Macedonian villages and towns
2. Introducing new laws that revoke the citizenship of foriegn nationals in certain circumstances
3. Stop the negotiations immediately and begin the process of our admission to the United Nations under our constitutional name.

[Prolet]

There were only 100 people from our side, 300 from their side and the majority of people that turned up were pretty young while they had men in their 40s and 50s. They threw rocks at our people so they charged them. There was a good exchange of tupajnci further down and they started to run away it wasnt till the police that come in and move our people out. The footage clearly shows how that vice interior minister Buchi interfering with a police arrest, hopefully they will get rid of him for good now.

I expected alot more from our people with the turnout but once again the Komiti stood their ground and had a go at an older group of men who thought they could intimidate them, now its up to the Government to take strong sanctions and heavily punish and arrest those responsible for the church incident a few days ago. If the Church Museum does not go ahead this is where the problem will be and hopefully Pasko Kuzman doesnt end up like Academic Blaze Ristevski with the Encyclopedia scandal.

http://kurir.mk/makedonija/vesti/18893-Video-Incidentot-na-Kale

http://sitel.com.mk/video/makedonija/mvr-najavuva-ekspresno-otkrivanje-na-organizatorite

http://sitel.com.mk/video/makedonija/tezok-incident-na-kale

YouTube - Инцидент на Кале

[Niko777]

8 injured, including 2 policemen, in clash between ethnic Macedonians, minority Albanians

The Canadian Press

SKOPJE, Macedonia — A clash between ethnic Macedonian and Albanian youth in the country's capital Sunday left at least eight people injured, including two police officers, police said.

Both groups had gathered on the site of the Kale fortress in Skopje where a dispute over a new structure that is being built on the foundations of a 13th century church has intensified in recent days.

Kale fortress, on a hilltop in central Skopje, is the city's most prominent landmark, sections of which are as old as the 6th century, when Skopje was part of the Byzantine Empire. An extensive excavation and restoration program has been undertaken over the past five years.

The mainly Muslim ethnic Albanians, who comprise one-fourth of Macedonia's 2 million population, objected to what they said was the rebuilding of a church. They have demanded that a mosque be built alongside it.

Culture ministry officials, who have not specified the use of the new structure but have hinted that it would be a museum rather than a place of worship, rejected the Albanians' demand, saying the fortress had never contained a mosque.

The rival groups threw stones at each other Sunday, with police intervening to restore order, police spokesman Ivo Kotevski told The Associated Press.

Eight people, including two officers, were initially hospitalized. All were discharged, except for one man who was stabbed. His injuries weren't believed to be life-threatening.

Members of the ruling conservative coalition government condemned the incident and appealed for calm.

"Every violent act needs to be condemned and I do appeal that this incident not be used for political profit," Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski said.

Politicians from the ethnic Albanian Democratic Union of Integration, which governs in partnership with Gruevski's VMRO-DPMNE, also condemned the incident. But it was politicians from the Democratic Union of Integration, including two government ministers, who had fanned the flames of the dispute on Thursday, when they led a crowd of 100 people to demolish the structure, which was at an early stage of construction.

[Risto the Great]

Good on the facebook organisers. I hope they can develop some much needed momentum.
The reporter mentioned the "vergina sonce". How dim of her.

[George S.]

Risto why do we have to put up with this shit,we need to tell them enough is enough otherwise we will take action that is civil unrest where people get physically ripped apart.We have been careful before but this is where our sovereignity & tatkovina is at hand

[Frank]

I was waiting for the first foreign press article, and thankfully from a friendly Country the right facts and no insulting remarks were made. Including the most important fact that - the BBC and Reuters of the World would have omitted, the wanted destruction of State Property 2 days before with the DUI as a Macedonian Political party leading 100 thugs

Everyone watch the Foreign Press be alert.