The Real Ethnic Composition of Modern Greece

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  • Daskalot
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    • Sep 2008
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    #46
    Originally posted by Areianos View Post
    Well we modern Greeks did not write history and Peloponesos was populated mainly by Dorians that migrated from Macedonia to Peloponesos. They were Greek speakers and founders of Linear B.

    Besides when the royal houses were waging war amongst each other in southern Greece, Macedonian royalty invited the war refugees from Corinth, Argolis & Sparta to settle in Macedonia as it had vast land (according to Thucydides).

    Perhaps it was these war refugees from Corinth, Argolis and Sparta that sent Macedonia to the stratosphere under the reign of Philip.
    Sir havent you missed out on a millenia or two now, what happened in between....
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    • Daskalot
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
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      #47
      Originally posted by Areianos View Post
      We are all in this together are we not?

      Who knows Risto, you may in fact be a part of us.
      part of us??? It is more likely that you are a part of the Slavic world....
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      • Areianos
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        • Sep 2008
        • 71

        #48
        Yes we had Roman refugees when the Roman capitals changed, then we had the germanic Goths, then we had the Bulgars, then we had the Slavs, we had settlers from the Vangarian Guard, we had settlers from Spanish Aargon knights, we had settlers from French knights, we had Venetian & Genoan traders settle there and then Turks and lastly Spanish jews.

        ...and we are stil here.

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        • Areianos
          Banned
          • Sep 2008
          • 71

          #49
          Originally posted by Daskalot View Post
          part of us??? It is more likely that you are a part of the Slavic world....
          No disputing that at all but we are talking about perhaps 7% according to genetic studies. The same would be true on your side as well.

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          • Risto the Great
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 15658

            #50
            Originally posted by Areianos View Post
            We are all in this together are we not?

            Who knows Risto, you may in fact be a part of us.
            Actually you are 100% correct.
            I am the Macedonian part that evolved from the pool of Hellenes.
            I suspect you are the Greek part.
            Risto the Great
            MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
            "Holding my breath for the revolution."

            Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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            • Areianos
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              • Sep 2008
              • 71

              #51
              I am Macedonian..just like an Athenian from Athens.

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              • Risto the Great
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                • Sep 2008
                • 15658

                #52
                Oh, OK a geographic Macedonian.
                No worries.

                I am a real one. I am from Australia.
                Risto the Great
                MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                • Areianos
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 71

                  #53
                  Geographic, if you like no problem - culturally & linguistically MAKEDONAS.

                  Heritage - MACEDONIAN.

                  Ethnicity - GREEK

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                  • Petros Houhoulis
                    Banned
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 55

                    #54
                    Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                    Oh, OK a geographic Macedonian.
                    No worries.

                    I am a real one. I am from Australia.
                    Argh, those Geographic Macedonians! Who were they?



                    Also from Maedonika wordpress (for those who don't like wikipedia or wikisource)



                    "...These various names did not properly catch on, and gradually they began to give way until finally they were replaced by the natural description Slav" with a "Macedonian" reflection from the geographical area in which they were distributed. The people who spoke these dialects had once been called "Slavs" and later either "Serbs" or "Bulgarians" until the rivalry between these two names made them both alien to the Macedonian Slavs, who started calling themselves after the old geographical name of their country. The name Macedonian was first used by the Macedonian Slavs as a geographical term to indicate their origin...."
                    Last edited by Petros Houhoulis; 09-06-2008, 02:06 AM.

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                    • Daskalot
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 4345

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Areianos View Post
                      Geographic, if you like no problem - culturally & linguistically MAKEDONAS.

                      Heritage - MACEDONIAN.

                      Ethnicity - GREEK
                      Interesting, how does your language differ from lets say Greeks from Thessaly?
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                      • Daskalot
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 4345

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Petros Houhoulis View Post
                        Argh, those Geographic Macedonians! Who were they?



                        "...These various names did not properly catch on, and gradually they began to give way until finally they were replaced by the natural description Slav" with a "Macedonian" reflection from the geographical area in which they were distributed. The people who spoke these dialects had once been called "Slavs" and later either "Serbs" or "Bulgarians" until the rivalry between these two names made them both alien to the Macedonian Slavs, who started calling themselves after the old geographical name of their country. The name Macedonian was first used by the Macedonian Slavs as a geographical term to indicate their origin...."
                        Petros, we cannnot usurp the Slav label for ourselves, the rest of the Slav world would mind, what are they then if we are the Slavs by ethnicity......
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                        • Petros Houhoulis
                          Banned
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 55

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Daskalot View Post
                          Petros, we cannnot usurp the Slav label for ourselves, the rest of the Slav world would mind, what are they then if we are the Slavs by ethnicity......
                          Yes, that is why Misirkov used Slav Macedonians, not just Slavs, and then he shortened that to Macedonians.

                          The Greek ethnographic maps of that time also refer to Slav Macedonians.

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                          • Risto the Great
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 15658

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Areianos View Post
                            Geographic, if you like no problem - culturally & linguistically MAKEDONAS.

                            Heritage - MACEDONIAN.

                            Ethnicity - GREEK
                            Hey, maybe we are onto something.
                            For me, my heritage AND ethnicity is MACEDONIAN.
                            Well done, you have shed some new light.
                            Now your Greek friends will kill you.
                            Clearly we disagree about your heritage. What makes you feel you have a Macedonian heritage?

                            Please define how long MAKEDONAS has been around for. I know I know, you will say 4000 years or something. But we all know that is rubbish. And that the Makedonas dialect of Greek is th purest form of Greek ... you know, learning a new language from a book is always helpful.
                            Risto the Great
                            MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                            "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                            Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                            • Daskalot
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 4345

                              #59
                              Originally posted by Petros Houhoulis View Post
                              Yes, that is why Misirkov used Slav Macedonians, not just Slavs, and then he shortened that to Macedonians.

                              The Greek ethnographic maps of that time also refer to Slav Macedonians.
                              Because that was what we were then and what we are today, Macedonians.
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                              • toothpaste
                                Banned
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 149

                                #60
                                What about Greeks of Macedonia prior to 1912 ?
                                Did they come from Mars?

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