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  • Carlin
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 3332

    maco2envy, we have (very) similar results.

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    • maco2envy
      Member
      • Jan 2015
      • 288

      My mother's results are very similar to yours Carlin, even though my mother and father are from nearby villages that regularly intermix. Something tells me these Gedmatch methods are fairly variant (not a good thing) since the ancestryDNA results are almost the same for both of them.

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      • vicsinad
        Senior Member
        • May 2011
        • 2337

        I did this a while ago, and unfortunately I didn't record which admixture test it was. However, I know I saved the only ones that had Macedonian as an option. (I played around with all of them.)

        ME:
        1 Macedonian @ 3.052047
        2 Bulgarian @ 3.237535
        3 Kosovar @ 5.417058
        4 Romanian @ 5.615543
        5 Montenegrin @ 5.630441
        6 Albanian @ 6.105016
        7 Greek_Thessaly @ 6.974651
        8 Italian_Tuscan @ 7.203229
        9 Serbian @ 7.928205
        10 Italian_Bergamo @ 9.996491
        11 Bosnian @ 11.996261
        12 Greek_Central @ 12.536595
        13 Italian_Abruzzo @ 13.242043
        14 Croatian @ 13.921420
        15 Moldavian @ 14.301837
        16 Spaniard @ 14.976334
        17 French @ 15.423677
        18 Hungarian @ 16.828901
        19 German_South @ 17.173138
        20 Slovene @ 17.539715

        My Wife:

        1 Macedonian @ 3.578402
        2 Bulgarian @ 4.045729
        3 Montenegrin @ 4.048208
        4 Romanian @ 4.350714
        5 Serbian @ 6.374573
        6 Kosovar @ 7.742767
        7 Albanian @ 8.599920
        8 Greek_Thessaly @ 9.419997
        9 Italian_Tuscan @ 9.651205
        10 Bosnian @ 9.868814
        11 Italian_Bergamo @ 11.723947
        12 Croatian @ 12.055648
        13 Moldavian @ 12.130770
        14 Greek_Central @ 14.510853
        15 French @ 14.563489
        16 Hungarian @ 14.899786
        17 Slovene @ 15.426784
        18 Italian_Abruzzo @ 15.477324
        19 Spaniard @ 15.694904
        20 German_South @ 15.915500

        One of the observations that I noted from above, which seemed to make sense to me, is that both of my wife's parents are from the Tetovo region, while only one of mine is from Tetovo region and the other from Prespa. Serbian and Montenegrin appear higher on my wife's list than on mine, relatively. Based on geographical proximity, this seems to make sense. This tells me that this test could be a fairly reliable indicator. However, Kosovar is higher on my list, which doesn't seem to fit as well with the geographical proximity explanation. Interestingly, though, perhaps because my parents are from two relatively distant regions in Macedonia and her parents are from just 3 villages away from each other, maybe that's why my Macedonian is 3.05 while hers is 3.5 -- that mix of different region could give a better representative picture of Macedonians. It makes me wonder what you would get if you had someone from Tetovo region and Kostur region; or for that matter, Tetovo region and Vodensko or Solunsko (or any other Macedonian extremes, or even central Macedonia (Veles to Shtip area).
        Last edited by vicsinad; 01-21-2019, 08:57 AM.

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        • maco2envy
          Member
          • Jan 2015
          • 288

          My mothers puntDNAL K13 results are very similar to yours, vicsinad:

          Using 1 population approximation:
          1 Macedonian @ 4.101864
          2 Bulgarian @ 4.430986
          3 Kosovar @ 4.647744
          4 Albanian @ 5.052258
          5 Greek_Thessaly @ 6.037992
          6 Italian_Tuscan @ 6.333726
          7 Romanian @ 6.884343
          8 Montenegrin @ 6.890855
          9 Serbian @ 9.283626
          10 Italian_Bergamo @ 9.973883
          11 Greek_Central @ 11.368895
          12 Italian_Abruzzo @ 11.950230
          13 Bosnian @ 13.319817
          14 Spaniard @ 15.222556
          15 Croatian @ 15.232032
          16 Moldavian @ 15.659679
          17 Ashkenazy_Jew @ 16.348623
          18 French @ 16.469654
          19 Italian_Sicilian @ 17.643173
          20 Hungarian @ 18.167028

          Using 2 populations approximation:
          1 50% Italian_Sicilian +50% Slovene @ 2.327702


          Although my fathers results are very different for this one, even though (again) they are from neighboring villages. Also, I assume most Macedonian samples are from Skopje, because that's the case with the Y-DNA studies.

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          • maco2envy
            Member
            • Jan 2015
            • 288

            Some Greek ""Macedonian"" results for puntDNAL K13

            Kit Number: Z418934
            Name: GreeceMaced1

            1 Turkish_Trabzon @ 4.850202
            2 Armenian @ 4.943121
            3 Assyrian @ 6.664927
            4 Lebanese_Druze @ 10.400541
            5 Turkish_Kayseri @ 10.442624
            6 Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 10.446073
            7 Lebanese_Muslim @ 11.090278
            8 Lebanese_Christian @ 11.850492
            9 Abkhasian @ 11.862915
            10 Cypriot @ 11.916451
            11 Syrian @ 12.244077
            12 Turkish @ 12.708711
            13 Kurdish @ 12.729999
            14 Iranian @ 16.302404
            15 Ossetian @ 16.326971
            16 Dagestan_Azeri @ 17.420746
            17 Turkish_Aydin @ 17.674520
            18 Jordanian @ 17.760265
            19 Balkar @ 18.509897
            20 Samaritan_Jew @ 18.515850

            Using 2 populations approximation:
            1 50% Armenian +50% Turkish_Trabzon @ 3.706778


            This one looks like a Arab-Greek mix
            Kit Number: Z823091
            Name: GreeceMaced6

            1 Ashkenazy_Jew @ 6.843037
            2 Sephardic_Jew @ 7.377344
            3 Italian_Sicilian @ 7.787379
            4 Greek_Central @ 9.889065
            5 Turkish @ 10.138598
            6 Cypriot @ 10.759546
            7 Italian_Abruzzo @ 11.753522
            8 Turkish_Kayseri @ 12.478663
            9 Turkish_Aydin @ 14.189587
            10 Syrian @ 14.674924
            11 Lebanese_Christian @ 14.933181
            12 Lebanese_Druze @ 15.126143
            13 Lebanese_Muslim @ 16.093033
            14 Greek_Thessaly @ 16.252096
            15 Albanian @ 17.123238
            16 Jordanian @ 17.524622
            17 Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 18.111841
            18 Kosovar @ 18.139843
            19 Balkar @ 18.679926
            20 Armenian @ 19.229366

            Using 2 populations approximation:
            1 50% Greek_Thessaly +50% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.470543


            I will post the rest of the kit numbers which includes other Balkan and surrounding people. The rest of the Greek Macedonian kits seem to be Macedonian, the others seem to be more Greek with some Arab admixture.

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            • maco2envy
              Member
              • Jan 2015
              • 288

              Some gedmatch kit numbers:

              A684751 Icaria, Aegean
              A318570 Kalymnos, Dodecanese
              M179262 Karpathos, Dodecanese
              A059192 Olympia and Kalymnos
              A570896 Andros, Aegean
              M846042 Volos and Eubea
              M838603 Cretan
              M523801 Cretan
              M706361 Cypriot
              Z645824 Cypriot
              M177805 Cypriot
              Z087841 Cypriot
              Z914573 Turkish
              Z875637 Turkish
              Z844636 Turkish
              Z182683 Turkish
              Z841465 Romanian
              Z402118 Romanian
              T090646 Bulgarian
              T624136 Albanian
              A906122 Hungarian
              Z431578 Armenian
              Z417388 Armenian
              Z419260 Georgian Laz

              A619640 Cosenza, Calabria
              A172427 Crotone, Calabria
              A405665 Reggio Calabria
              T476333 Mammola, Reggio Calabria
              A454745 Abruzzo + Calabria
              A482096 Messina, Sicily
              A538499 Messina, Sicily
              M765905 Messina, Sicily
              M164106 Catania, Sicily
              M041450 Catania, Sicily
              T303793 Trapani, Sicily
              M090932 Caltanisseta, Sicily
              A185048 Maltese
              A185048 Maltese
              M119302 Maltese
              M053465 Chios, Aegean Greece
              A947163 Chios, Aegean Greece
              M168143 Chios, Aegean Greece
              A140718 Ikaria, Aegean Greece
              A484290 Symi, Dodecanese Greece
              M871606 Karpathos, Dodecanese Greece
              A454108 Asia Minor (Syrmia, Istanul) Greek


              Kit Number: Z501418
              Name: *gagauz24

              Kit Number: Z887657
              Name: *gagauz25

              Kit Number: Z749500
              Name: *gagauz3

              Kit Number: Z374037
              Name: *gagauz5

              Kit Number: Z502959
              Name: *gagauz7

              Kit Number: Z028169
              Name: *gagauz8

              Kit Number: Z573968
              Name: *gagauz14

              Kit Number: Z148665
              Name: *gagauz20

              Kit Number: Z908023
              Name: gagauz23

              Kit Number: Z694632
              Name: *gagauz22

              Kit Number: Z375110
              Name: *gagauz18

              Kit Number: Z887011
              Name: *gagauz4



              Kit Number: Z778162
              Name: Bulgaria1

              Kit Number: Z076159
              Name: Bulgaria2

              Kit Number: Z485230
              Name: Bulgaria25

              Kit Number: Z115788
              Name: Bulgaria26

              Kit Number: Z912345
              Name: Bulgaria3

              Kit Number: Z054075
              Name: Bulgaria33

              Kit Number: T633483
              Name: Bulgaria37

              Kit Number: Z181725
              Name: Bulgaria39

              Kit Number: Z943722
              Name: Bulgaria4

              Kit Number: Z549316
              Name: Bulgaria5

              Kit Number: Z456732
              Name: Bulgaria6

              Kit Number: Z168171
              Name: Bulgaria7

              Kit Number: Z360879
              Name: Bulgaria8


              Kit Number: Z841465
              Name: Romania1

              Kit Number: Z402118
              Name: Romania10

              Kit Number: Z238520
              Name: Romani11

              Kit Number: Z185401
              Name: Romania12

              Kit Number: Z420838
              Name: Romania13

              Kit Number: Z765774
              Name: Romania14

              Kit Number: Z219999
              Name: Romania15

              Kit Number: Z668290
              Name: Romania16

              Kit Number: Z054532
              Name: Romania2

              Kit Number: Z183789
              Name: Romania3

              Kit Number: Z525540
              Name: Romania4

              Kit Number: Z259569
              Name: Romania5

              Kit Number: Z868739
              Name: Romania6

              Kit Number: Z667335
              Name: Romania7

              Kit Number: Z365571
              Name: Romania8

              Kit Number: Z191916
              Name: Romania9



              Kit Number: Z371034
              Name: Bosnian_1

              Kit Number: Z799298
              Name: Bosnian_10

              Kit Number: Z773379
              Name: Bosnian11

              Kit Number: Z470356
              Name: Bosnian12

              Kit Number: Z143257
              Name: Bosnian13

              Kit Number: Z192026
              Name: Bosnian14

              Kit Number: Z793771
              Name: Bosnian15

              Kit Number: Z597659
              Name: Bosnian16

              Kit Number: Z377079
              Name: Bosnian2

              Kit Number: Z801131
              Name: Bosnian3

              Kit Number: Z935091
              Name: Bosnian4

              Kit Number: Z651630
              Name: Bosnian5

              Kit Number: Z568631
              Name: Bosnian6

              Kit Number: Z843039
              Name: Bosnian7

              Kit Number: Z456530
              Name: Bosnian8



              Kit Number: Z059340
              Name: croatBHCB12_1m

              Kit Number: Z463425
              Name: croatBHCB16_1m

              Kit Number: Z728548
              Name: croatBHCHZ11_1m

              Kit Number: Z587597
              Name: croatBHCHZ13_1m

              Kit Number: Z239102
              Name: croatia_B-H1

              Kit Number: Z101383
              Name: croatia_B-H12

              Kit Number: Z603601
              Name: croatia_B-H19

              Kit Number: Z535935
              Name: Croatia_B-H1H

              Kit Number: Z390235
              Name: Croatia_B-H20H

              Kit Number: Z247356
              Name: croatia_B-H6

              Kit Number: Z636008
              Name: Croatia_B-H8H

              Kit Number: Z806587
              Name: Croatia_Cro133

              Kit Number: Z986343
              Name: Croatia_Cro140

              Kit Number: Z837925
              Name: Croatia_Cro141

              Kit Number: Z044088
              Name: Croatia_Cro142

              Kit Number: Z641907
              Name: Croatia_Cro198

              Kit Number: Z065794
              Name: Croatia_Cro26

              Kit Number: Z003993
              Name: Croatia_Cro302

              Kit Number: Z488470
              Name: Croatia_Cro305

              Kit Number: Z241479
              Name: Croatia_Cro312

              Kit Number: Z305488
              Name: Croatia_Cro344

              Kit Number: Z125516
              Name: Croatia_Cro43

              Kit Number: Z378719
              Name: Croatia_Cro432

              Kit Number: Z189219
              Name: Croatia_Cro53

              Kit Number: Z254186
              Name: Cyprus1

              Kit Number: Z645824
              Name: Cyprus10

              Kit Number: Z087841
              Name: Cyprus11

              Kit Number: Z182435
              Name: Cyprus12

              Kit Number: Z959093
              Name: Cyprus2

              Kit Number: Z127622
              Name: Cyprus3

              Kit Number: Z482939
              Name: Cyprus4

              Kit Number: Z582791
              Name: Cyprus5

              Kit Number: Z443020
              Name: Cyprus6

              Kit Number: Z853715
              Name: Cyprus7

              Kit Number: Z264894
              Name: Cyprus8

              Kit Number: Z241847
              Name: Cyprus9



              Kit Number: Z714983
              Name: GreeceCentr1

              Kit Number: Z131291
              Name: GreeceCentr10

              Kit Number: Z210352
              Name: GreeceCentr2

              Kit Number: Z401858
              Name: GreeceCentr3

              Kit Number: Z602601
              Name: GreeceCentr4

              Kit Number: Z476541
              Name: GreeceCentr5

              Kit Number: Z368850
              Name: GreeceCentr6

              Kit Number: Z880378
              Name: GreeceCentr7

              Kit Number: Z825068
              Name: GreeceCentr8

              Kit Number: Z880891
              Name: GreeceCentr9

              Kit Number: Z829678
              Name: GreeceThessaly1

              Kit Number: Z407001
              Name: GreeceThessaly10

              Kit Number: Z313992
              Name: GreeceThessaly2

              Kit Number: Z741721
              Name: GreeceThessaly4

              Kit Number: Z580405
              Name: GreeceThessaly5

              Kit Number: Z812683
              Name: GreeceThessaly6

              Kit Number: Z260052
              Name: GreeceThessaly7

              Kit Number: Z197487
              Name: GreeceThessaly9

              Kit Number: Z090265
              Name: GreeceThessaly8

              Kit Number: Z418934
              Name: GreeceMaced1

              Kit Number: Z274631
              Name: GreeceMaced2

              Kit Number: Z721721
              Name: GreeceMaced3

              Kit Number: Z244127
              Name: GreeceMaced4

              Kit Number: Z823091
              Name: GreeceMaced6

              Kit Number: Z455687
              Name: GreeceMaced7

              Kit Number: Z608982
              Name: GreeceMaced8

              Kit Number: Z351478
              Name: GreecePelop1

              Kit Number: Z659969
              Name: GreecePelop10

              Kit Number: Z106701
              Name: GreecePelop3

              Kit Number: Z280331
              Name: GreecePelop4

              Kit Number: Z368114
              Name: GreecePelop5

              Kit Number: Z482928
              Name: GreecePelop6

              Kit Number: Z691528
              Name: GreecePelop7

              Kit Number: Z686475
              Name: GreecePelop8

              Kit Number: Z376248
              Name: GreeceThessaly3




              Kit Number: Z807408
              Name: Macedonian10

              Kit Number: Z019954
              Name: Macedonian12

              Kit Number: Z615904
              Name: Macedonian14

              Kit Number: Z643708
              Name: Macedonian17b-d

              Kit Number: Z343313
              Name: Macedonian19

              Kit Number: Z037927
              Name: Macedonian2

              Kit Number: Z750200
              Name: Macedonian20

              Kit Number: Z659048
              Name: Macedonian21

              Kit Number: Z749903
              Name: Macedonian22

              Kit Number: Z435480
              Name: Macedonian3

              Kit Number: Z980726
              Name: Macedonian6

              Kit Number: Z680911
              Name: Macedonian7

              Kit Number: Z395622
              Name: Macedonian8

              Kit Number: Z314430
              Name: Macedonian9

              Note that you don't need to have done a DNA test to view information about these samples. Also, I think these samples are from actual publications, so I assume most of them can trace their ancestry back a few generations (atleast) from that specified region. Enjoy.

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              • Amphipolis
                Banned
                • Aug 2014
                • 1328

                Originally posted by Amphipolis View Post
                I just got my results (I'm also expecting my mother's results within days)

                Greek 73,3%, Balkan 8,9%, North & West European 7,9%
                Ashkenazi Jewish 3,2%, West Asia 2,7%, East European 2,1%, Iberian 1,9%
                My mother's results from the same company My-Heritage-DNA (a little incompatible to mine)
                Greek 55%, Italian 39%, Finnish 2,2%, Ashkenazi Jewish 2,1%, West Asia 1,4%

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                • Phoenix
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 4671

                  Originally posted by Amphipolis View Post
                  My mother's results from the same company My-Heritage-DNA (a little incompatible to mine)
                  Greek 55%, Italian 39%, Finnish 2,2%, Ashkenazi Jewish 2,1%, West Asia 1,4%
                  ...with each passing generation the greeks become greeker...the same miraculous way many of you become 'macedonian' circa 1985...

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                  • Amphipolis
                    Banned
                    • Aug 2014
                    • 1328

                    Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
                    ...with each passing generation the greeks become greeker...the same miraculous way many of you become 'macedonian' circa 1985...
                    No kidding this is exactly my case. It also shows how a random half DNA is inherited and the other half is lost. I totally lost her Italian DNA (even though it was an impressive 39%) and didn't even take 0,1%.

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                    • tchaiku
                      Member
                      • Nov 2016
                      • 786

                      From maco2envy's post (with kit-numbers), all other Cypriots had similar results:

                      # Population (source) Distance
                      1 Cypriot (Cyprus) 4.15
                      2 Lebanese_Christian (Lebanon) 7.85
                      3 Jew (Syria) 8.67
                      4 Jew (Turkish_Sephardim) 8.73
                      5 Armenian (Lebanon) 9.12
                      6 Arab_Israel (Iqrit) 9.45
                      7 Lebanese_Muslim (Lebanon) 9.57
                      8 Greek (Azov) 10.02
                      9 Greek (Greece) 10.03
                      10 Druze (Mount_Carmel) 10.18
                      11 Samaritan (Israel) 10.43
                      12 Jew (Sephardim) 10.56
                      13 Jew (Bulgaria) 10.62
                      14 Jew (Turkey) 10.65
                      15 Armenian (Armenia) 10.67
                      16 Turk (Adana) 10.74
                      17 Turk (Kayseri) 10.81
                      18 Jew (Italian) 10.85
                      19 Armenian (Vanatur_Hrazdan) 11.01
                      20 Armenian (Erzrum) 11.06

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                      • tchaiku
                        Member
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 786

                        Originally posted by maco2envy View Post
                        Some Greek ""Macedonian"" results for puntDNAL K13

                        Kit Number: Z418934
                        Name: GreeceMaced1

                        1 Turkish_Trabzon @ 4.850202
                        2 Armenian @ 4.943121
                        3 Assyrian @ 6.664927
                        4 Lebanese_Druze @ 10.400541
                        5 Turkish_Kayseri @ 10.442624
                        6 Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 10.446073
                        7 Lebanese_Muslim @ 11.090278
                        8 Lebanese_Christian @ 11.850492
                        9 Abkhasian @ 11.862915
                        10 Cypriot @ 11.916451
                        11 Syrian @ 12.244077
                        12 Turkish @ 12.708711
                        13 Kurdish @ 12.729999
                        14 Iranian @ 16.302404
                        15 Ossetian @ 16.326971
                        16 Dagestan_Azeri @ 17.420746
                        17 Turkish_Aydin @ 17.674520
                        18 Jordanian @ 17.760265
                        19 Balkar @ 18.509897
                        20 Samaritan_Jew @ 18.515850

                        Using 2 populations approximation:
                        1 50% Armenian +50% Turkish_Trabzon @ 3.706778


                        This one looks like a Arab-Greek mix
                        Kit Number: Z823091
                        Name: GreeceMaced6

                        1 Ashkenazy_Jew @ 6.843037
                        2 Sephardic_Jew @ 7.377344
                        3 Italian_Sicilian @ 7.787379
                        4 Greek_Central @ 9.889065
                        5 Turkish @ 10.138598
                        6 Cypriot @ 10.759546
                        7 Italian_Abruzzo @ 11.753522
                        8 Turkish_Kayseri @ 12.478663
                        9 Turkish_Aydin @ 14.189587
                        10 Syrian @ 14.674924
                        11 Lebanese_Christian @ 14.933181
                        12 Lebanese_Druze @ 15.126143
                        13 Lebanese_Muslim @ 16.093033
                        14 Greek_Thessaly @ 16.252096
                        15 Albanian @ 17.123238
                        16 Jordanian @ 17.524622
                        17 Azerbaijan_Azeri @ 18.111841
                        18 Kosovar @ 18.139843
                        19 Balkar @ 18.679926
                        20 Armenian @ 19.229366

                        Using 2 populations approximation:
                        1 50% Greek_Thessaly +50% Lebanese_Druze @ 2.470543


                        I will post the rest of the kit numbers which includes other Balkan and surrounding people. The rest of the Greek Macedonian kits seem to be Macedonian, the others seem to be more Greek with some Arab admixture.
                        Trabzon ... obviously a Pontian.

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                        • Carlin
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 3332

                          My puntDNAL K13 Global Oracle results

                          Single Population Sharing:

                          # Population (source) Distance
                          1 Macedonian 3.44
                          2 Bulgarian 3.84
                          3 Kosovar 5.46
                          4 Montenegrin 5.55
                          5 Romanian 5.7
                          6 Albanian 5.9
                          7 Greek_Thessaly 6.81
                          8 Italian_Tuscan 6.9
                          9 Serbian 7.48
                          10 Italian_Bergamo 9.38
                          11 Bosnian 11.11
                          12 Greek_Central 11.7
                          13 Italian_Abruzzo 12.33
                          14 Croatian 12.82
                          15 Moldavian 13.24
                          16 Spaniard 13.73
                          17 French 14.13
                          18 Hungarian 15.48
                          19 German_South 15.84
                          20 Slovene 16.06

                          Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

                          # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
                          1 88.9% Albanian + 11.1% Finnish @ 1.98
                          2 96.8% Macedonian + 3.2% Yakut @ 2.03
                          3 84.6% Albanian + 15.4% Mordovian @ 2.06
                          4 85.5% Albanian + 14.5% Russian @ 2.11
                          5 96.8% Macedonian + 3.2% Koryak @ 2.12
                          6 96.7% Macedonian + 3.3% Dolgan @ 2.16
                          7 96.9% Macedonian + 3.1% Chukchi @ 2.16
                          8 97.4% Macedonian + 2.6% Nganasan @ 2.17
                          9 64.4% French + 35.6% Turkish @ 2.17
                          10 96.3% Macedonian + 3.7% Tuvinian @ 2.18
                          11 71.4% Italian_Abruzzo + 28.6% Mordovian @ 2.19
                          12 83.2% Italian_Tuscan + 16.8% Chuvash @ 2.21
                          13 96.6% Macedonian + 3.4% Oroqen @ 2.21
                          14 95.8% Macedonian + 4.2% Altaian @ 2.25
                          15 96.2% Macedonian + 3.8% Mongolian @ 2.26
                          16 79.8% Italian_Tuscan + 20.2% Tatar @ 2.26
                          17 66.9% French + 33.1% Turkish_Kayseri @ 2.27
                          18 72.8% Italian_Abruzzo + 27.2% Russian @ 2.33
                          19 96.9% Macedonian + 3.1% Eskimo @ 2.34
                          20 96.9% Macedonian + 3.1% Daur @ 2.38

                          Same Test, but puntDNAL K13 Global 4-Ancestors Oracle results/summary

                          Least-squares method.

                          Using 1 population approximation:
                          1 Macedonian @ 3.668006
                          2 Bulgarian @ 4.121347
                          3 Kosovar @ 5.902586
                          4 Montenegrin @ 6.013378
                          5 Romanian @ 6.184773
                          6 Albanian @ 6.398431
                          7 Greek_Thessaly @ 7.391240
                          8 Italian_Tuscan @ 7.414318
                          9 Serbian @ 8.135329
                          10 Italian_Bergamo @ 10.058260
                          11 Bosnian @ 12.117691
                          12 Greek_Central @ 12.764841
                          13 Italian_Abruzzo @ 13.404091
                          14 Croatian @ 13.987561
                          15 Moldavian @ 14.423111
                          16 Spaniard @ 14.841990
                          17 French @ 15.382277
                          18 Hungarian @ 16.890045
                          19 German_South @ 17.240946
                          20 Slovene @ 17.535757

                          Using 2 populations approximation:
                          1 50% Ashkenazy_Jew +50% Slovene @ 2.765201

                          Using 3 populations approximation:
                          1 50% Ashkenazy_Jew +25% Mordovian +25% Spaniard @ 1.632009

                          Using 4 populations approximation:
                          ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++++++++++++++
                          1 Ashkenazy_Jew + Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Bergamo + Mordovian @ 1.512448
                          2 Albanian + French_Basque + Lebanese_Druze + Mordovian @ 1.590791
                          3 Ashkenazy_Jew + French_Basque + Russian + Turkish @ 1.591787
                          4 French_Basque + Kosovar + Lebanese_Muslim + Mordovian @ 1.614336
                          5 French_Basque + Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Druze + Mordovian @ 1.614346
                          6 Albanian + French_Basque + Lebanese_Muslim + Mordovian @ 1.616329
                          7 Italian_Abruzzo + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Sicilian + Mordovian @ 1.624641
                          8 French_Basque + Italian_Sicilian + Russian + Turkish @ 1.627666
                          9 Ashkenazy_Jew + Ashkenazy_Jew + Mordovian + Spaniard @ 1.632009
                          10 Greek_Central + Italian_Bergamo + Italian_Sicilian + Mordovian @ 1.636431
                          11 Italian_Abruzzo + Spaniard + Swedish + Turkish_Aydin @ 1.638495
                          12 French_Basque + Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Muslim + Mordovian @ 1.639518
                          13 French_Basque + Kosovar + Lebanese_Druze + Mordovian @ 1.668056
                          14 French_Basque + Greek_Thessaly + Lebanese_Christian + Mordovian @ 1.679568
                          15 Albanian + French_Basque + Lebanese_Christian + Mordovian @ 1.690439
                          16 Italian_Sicilian + Italian_Tuscan + Italian_Tuscan + Mordovian @ 1.698234
                          17 Albanian + Cypriot + Mordovian + Spaniard @ 1.709313
                          18 French_Basque + Polish + Sephardic_Jew + Turkish_Aydin @ 1.712790
                          19 Ashkenazy_Jew + Belarusian + French_Basque + Turkish_Aydin @ 1.712818
                          20 Italian_Tuscan + Slovak + Spaniard + Turkish_Aydin @ 1.717273


                          Gedrosia K12 Oracle results

                          Single Population Sharing:

                          # Population (source) Distance
                          1 Greek 8.74
                          2 Sicilian 13.5
                          3 Turks_Istanbul 21.54
                          4 Turks_Aydin 25.22
                          5 Turks_Balikesir 26.61
                          6 Turks_Adana 29.43
                          7 Kurds_N 30.34
                          8 Turks_Kayseri 30.53
                          9 Kurds_C 30.54
                          10 Iraqi_Chaldeans 30.68
                          11 Norwegian 30.96
                          12 Iraqi_Arab_Baghdad 31.34
                          13 Iraqi_Jew 31.74
                          14 Kurds_F 32.18
                          15 Kurds_E 33.13
                          16 Iraqi_Mandaeans 33.52
                          17 Armenian 34.63
                          18 Assyrian 35.46
                          19 Jordanian 35.87
                          20 Syrian 36.64

                          Mixed Mode Population Sharing:

                          # Primary Population (source) Secondary Population (source) Distance
                          1 75% Sicilian + 25% Russian @ 3.04
                          2 86% Sicilian + 14% BA_Sintashta @ 3.37
                          3 86% Sicilian + 14% Corded_Ware_LN @ 3.37
                          4 77.1% Sicilian + 22.9% Finnish @ 3.57
                          5 78% Sicilian + 22% Estonian @ 3.73
                          6 78.5% Sicilian + 21.5% Lithuanian @ 3.74
                          7 70.8% Sicilian + 29.2% Norwegian @ 4.77
                          8 84.9% Greek + 15.1% Russian @ 5.25
                          9 86.4% Greek + 13.6% Finnish @ 5.39
                          10 92.2% Greek + 7.8% BA_Sintashta @ 5.47
                          11 92.2% Greek + 7.8% Corded_Ware_LN @ 5.47
                          12 87.1% Greek + 12.9% Estonian @ 5.48
                          13 87.5% Greek + 12.5% Lithuanian @ 5.54
                          14 82.6% Greek + 17.4% Norwegian @ 5.94
                          15 50.7% Norwegian + 49.3% Iraqi_Jew @ 6.84
                          16 51.4% Turks_Adana + 48.6% Norwegian @ 7.62
                          17 90.1% Greek + 9.9% Tajik_Pomiri @ 7.65
                          18 92.9% Greek + 7.1% Punjabi_Sikh @ 7.66
                          19 95.3% Greek + 4.7% Brahui @ 7.85
                          20 94.9% Greek + 5.1% Balochi @ 7.87

                          NOTE:

                          Gedrosia K12 Admixture Proportions


                          This calculator has been designed for individuals of predominately South Asian and West Asian ancestry for inferring gedrosian Balochi admixture. Since those populations were mostly used to source allele frequencies, individuals with majority ancestry from outside those regions will most likely find this calculator less accurate and informative.

                          From URL:


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                          Eurogenes K36 model results

                          URL - Eurogenes K36 now at GEDmatch:
                          I've just put together a new test for GEDmatch called the Eurogenes K36. Obviously, the K36 means that it features thirty six ancestral clus...


                          The main purpose of the Eurogenes K36 is to help users unravel the ethnic origins of local areas of their genomes (aka. half-segments), hence the high number of ancestral categories, some of which are very specific. In other words, the test is mainly a chromosome painting utility.

                          An important point to keep in mind is not to take the ancestry proportions too literally. If you're, say, English, and you get an Iberian score of 12% this doesn't actually mean you have recent ancestry from Spain or Portugal. What it means is that 12% of your alleles look typical of the reference samples classified as Iberian, and this figure might only indicate recent Iberian admixture if it's clearly higher than those of other English users.

                          Another way to look at it is that the ancestry proportions are like map coordinates, and they'll place you with a very high degree of accuracy on a genetic map featuring other users.



                          Results (I highlighted the top 5 below)

                          Population
                          Amerindian -
                          Arabian 2.10 Pct
                          Armenian 2.23 Pct
                          Basque 0.12 Pct
                          Central_African -
                          Central_Euro 7.35 Pct
                          East_African -
                          East_Asian -
                          East_Balkan 8.94 Pct
                          East_Central_Asian -
                          East_Central_Euro 7.85 Pct
                          East_Med 9.62 Pct
                          Eastern_Euro 6.42 Pct
                          Fennoscandian 2.34 Pct
                          French 0.37 Pct
                          Iberian 12.19 Pct
                          Indo-Chinese -
                          Italian 18.47 Pct
                          Malayan -
                          Near_Eastern 3.12 Pct
                          North_African -
                          North_Atlantic 2.50 Pct
                          North_Caucasian 5.60 Pct
                          North_Sea 5.39 Pct
                          Northeast_African -
                          Oceanian -
                          Omotic -
                          Pygmy -
                          Siberian -
                          South_Asian -
                          South_Central_Asian -
                          South_Chinese -
                          Volga-Ural 0.23 Pct
                          West_African -
                          West_Caucasian 2.29 Pct
                          West_Med 2.86 Pct
                          Last edited by Carlin; 01-27-2019, 10:30 PM.

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                          • Bill77
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2009
                            • 4545

                            My son twisted my arm, so i had one done.

                            I'm indigenous as one can get. So Modern Greeks...... get out of my country
                            Last edited by Bill77; 02-09-2019, 02:14 AM.
                            http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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                            • Phoenix
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 4671

                              Originally posted by Bill77 View Post
                              My son twisted my arm, so i had one done.

                              I'm indigenous as one can get. So Modern Greeks...... get out of my country
                              Good to hear from you Bill...

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                              • Bill77
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 4545

                                Originally posted by Phoenix View Post
                                Good to hear from you Bill...


                                I wanted to come back one day and have something positive to say. It's so hard these days to find anything positive about Macedonia. Somehow i wished my DNA told me i was a Mongol or something else not so embarrassing like Southern European/Macedonian
                                Last edited by Bill77; 02-09-2019, 02:29 AM.
                                http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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