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Old 02-01-2017, 03:58 AM   #11
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Seventy-two cities? Can that be right?
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Old 02-01-2017, 07:00 AM   #12
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Seventy-two cities? Can that be right?
From Plutarch:

Plato wrote a book on the One Ideal Constitution, but because of its forbidding character he could not persuade anyone to adopt it; but Alexander established more than seventy cities among savage tribes, and sowed all Asia with Grecian magistracies, and thus overcame its uncivilized and brutish manner of living.

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"...and this is that same Macedonia, of which our own general Paulus Ĉmilius sold to pillage seventy-two cities in one day."

Pliny the Elder
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/...3Achapter%3D17
I guess Pliny the Elder meant the entire extents of the Macedonian Empire and not just Macedonia proper when he made the comment above. We joke about it now but it looks like the Romans considered India (and other regions won by the Macedonian spear) a part of Macedonia too back then. The seventy-two cities would make more sense in that case.
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I guess Pliny the Elder meant the entire extents of the Macedonian Empire and not just Macedonia proper when he made the comment above. We joke about it now but it looks like the Romans considered India (and other regions won by the Macedonian spear) a part of Macedonia too back then. The seventy-two cities would make more sense in that case.
The 72 pillaged cities were actually in Epirus.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucius...us_Macedonicus
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The country now called Macedonia was formerly called Emathia. It acquired this name from Macedon, one of its ancient princes. There was also a city Emathia near the sea. The country was occupied by some of the Epirotĉ and Illyrians, but the greatest part by Bottiĉi and Thracians. The Bottiĉi were of Cretan origin, and came under the command of Botton; the Pieres, who were Thracians, inhabited Pieria and the parts about Olympus; the Pĉonians, the borders of the river Axius, from whence the region was called Amphaxitis; the Edoni and Bisalti, the rest of the country as far as the Strymon. The Bisalti retained their name, but the Edoni went under the various names of Mygdones, Edoni, Odones and Sithones.

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Old 03-18-2017, 02:21 PM   #16
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Livy, Rome and Italy - Penguin Classics.

Book VII, Page 132:

"...for mainland Greece at that time was exhausted by internal warfare and already lived in dread of the might of Macedon."*

* - The Third Sacred War ended only by the intervention of Philip of Macedon.

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liber_Memorialis
http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/...lius/home.html

The Liber Memorialis is an ancient book in Latin featuring an extremely concise summary—a kind of index—of universal history from earliest times to the reign of Trajan. It was written by Lucius Ampelius, who was possibly a tutor or schoolmaster. Nothing is known of him or of the date at which he lived; the times of Trajan, Hadrian, Antoninus Pius, the beginning of the 3rd century have all been suggested. However, in Chapter V De Orbe Terrarum (The World), he wrote:

Main nations of Asia: Indian, Seric, Persian, Median, Parthian, Arabian, Bithynian, Phrygian, Cappadocian, Cilician, Syrian, Lydian. Main nations of Europe: Scythian, Sarmatian, Germanic, Dacian, Moesian, Thracian, Macedonian, Dalmatian, Pannonian, Illyrian, Graecian, Italian, Gallic, Spanish

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VI. De orbe terrarum.
3 In Asia clarissimae gentes: Indi, Seres, Persae, Medi, Parthi, Arabes, Bithyni, Phryges, Cappadoces, Cilices, Syri, Lycii. 4 In Europa clarissimae gentes: Scythae, Sarmatae, Germani, Daci, Moesi, Thraces, Macedones, Dalmatae, Pannonii, Illyrici, Graeci, Itali, Galli, Spani. 5 In Libya gentes clarissimae: Aethiopes, Mauri, Numidae, Poeni, Gaetuli, Garamantes, Nasamones, Aegyptii.

6 Clarissimi montes in orbe terrarum: Caucasus in Scythia, Emodus in India, Libanus in Syria, Olympus in Macedonia, Hymettus in Attica, Taygetus in Lacedaemonia, Cithaeron et Helicon in Boeotia, Parnasos ** et Acroceraunia in Epiro, Maenalus in Arcadia, 7 Apenninus in Italia, Eryx in Sicilia, Alpes inter Galliam et Italiam, Pyrenaeus inter Galliam et Spaniam, Atlas in Africa, Calpe in freto Oceani.

X. De imperiis.
Imperia ab ineunte aevi memoria fuerunt septem. Primi rerum potiti sunt Assyrii, deinde Medi, postea Persae, tum Lacedaemonii, dein Athenienses; post hos inde Macedones: sic deinde Romani.

XVI. Reges Macedonum.
1 Philippus, Amyntae filius, primus Macedonum obtinuit Thraciam redegitque in suam potestatem; et cum transire in Asiam vellet, sub ipso belli apparatu in theatro a Pausania est interfectus. 2 Alexander, Philippi et Olympiadis filius, ex urbe Pella Macedoniae cum quadraginta milibus militum in Asiam transisset, Darium regem Persarum primum aput Granicum p15fluvium, tum aput Issum Ciliciae, tertio apud Arbela, tribus proeliis trecenta peditum, † legionum equitum, duo milia falcatorum curruum vicit. Mox regem Indorum et omnes Asiae gentes sub potestatem suam redegit et nobilissimas urbes Asiae cepit, Sardes, Bactra, Susa, Babyloniam, ubi etiam defunctus est, dubium a vinolentia an veneno, cum tamen prius et Africam peragrasset usque ad Iovem Ammonem et Oceanum primus omnium navigasset. 3 Philippus, qui post Alexandrum Macedonem septimo gradu Macedoniae regnavit, invectus in Graeciam cum saeve dominaretur, a Sulpicio consule in Phocide victus est, mox a Flaminino in Macedonia Thessalia aput Cynoscephalas, ubi dato obside filio Demetrio regni parte multatus est. 4 Perses Philippi filius, cum maximis copiis Macedoniis ** et cum in Graeciam impetum fecisset, cum inanibus elephantorum simulacris a Marcio consule apud Ascuridem paludem victus, praecipitatis in mare thesauris profugit; mox ab Aemilio Paulo tota Macedonia fugatus Samothraciam confugit in asylum, unde data fide cum se Paulo commisisset, ante currum eius in triumphum productus mox libera custodia in Albano consenuit. 5 Pseudophilippus, vir plebeius et degener, cum ex similitudine formae Philippus filium se esse persuasisset et Macedonas in bellum excitasset, inter initia tumultus comprehensus sub custodia missus est Romam, ubi cum ex custodia aufugisset, concitata rursus Macedonia Thraciam bello recepit. In arce regni paludatus ius dixit; mox a Caecilio Metello ingenti proelio victus, cum profugisset in Thraciam, a regibus deditus est et in triumphum deportatus.

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"The first library at Rome was instituted 167 B.C.; it was brought from Macedonia."

Dictionary of Dates, and Universal Reference. Joseph T. Haydn. 1841. Pg. 305.

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