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Old 02-17-2019, 01:11 AM   #31
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Not sure that's how they all feel. Many emigrate or flee and become refugees because of economics or politics. Some would argue that when they arrive in their new countries a number of them (and their offspring) retain customs and attitudes that are not compatible with western societies. That perspective is given some weight when one reads about some of the events that have taken place in England, France and Germany. All that in spite of the somewhat accommodating nature of local authorities.
I read about this a lot, the economic refugees. In the US those are predominantly people form South and Central America, not Muslims or even others. I think getting a visa as a refugee is extremely difficult in he US so the ones who can only get here by plane are legitimate refugees. I've read a lot about the troubles Germans have with the middle eastern refugees and I honestly can't say I've experienced that here in the USA. But of course the USA takes in very few refugees at all so it's possible the same problems would occur if they took in over a million at once like Germany did.
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Given that, do you think there's a chance of real peace between Macedonians and ethnic Albanians in Macedonia?
Never. Think of two small children fighting over a toy, one loses one wins.

There won't be peace but the conflict will die down, mostly because we will have died off, moved away, and given up on the Macedonian identity. In short it will be because they will have won and we won't be left with a leg to stand on.
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Did you post that page to corroborate a point of view or to outline how many Islamic ethnic groups there were in Ottoman Macedonia?
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Did you post that page to corroborate a point of view or to outline how many Islamic ethnic groups there were in Ottoman Macedonia?
The latter. Just demography.
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The latter. Just demography.
Thank the Ottomans for that and for their deliberate policy of trying to dilute the Christian population. Prior to them, none were there, even the ethnic Albanians (who were formerly Christian) were barely present when looking at Macedonia as a whole.
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Thank the Ottomans for that and for their deliberate policy of trying to dilute the Christian population. Prior to them, none were there, even the ethnic Albanians (who were formerly Christian) were barely present when looking at Macedonia as a whole.
I believe many (if not most) Albanians ended up in Ottoman Macedonia during the Tanzimat reforms.
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Well this is interesting. Was not aware of the existence of a 'Apostolic Vicariate of Macedonia' in the 19th century.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macedo...the_Bulgarians
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This is quite interesting, something I had no idea bout.

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