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  • Carlin
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 3332

    #61
    1) Below excerpt is taken from this article:


    "According to the 2002 census in Macedonia, Albanians account for 25% of the population. The census from 2011, Albanians boycotted after ten days of enumeration. Macedonian law forbids that citizens living abroad more than a year can be enumerated. Since a significant number of Albanians left Macedonia and went to the West, the real number of Albanians living in Macedonia would be shown. In that time ruling national-conservative Macedonian party VMRO-DPMNE drawn attention that there was manipulation in the census at that time. According to their data, 120,000 Albanians who have not lived in Macedonia for long time were enumerated. And that is a significant problem. The Ohrid Agreement from 2001, which ended the armed conflict between Albanian separatists and armed forces of the Macedonian state has basis in the 2002 census. Under that agreement members of national minorities, primarily Albanian, are guaranteed greater political influence, both at the state and local levels. In places where they account for more than 20% of the population, Albanians had received more rights in local government. There has also been an artificial increase of Albanians in Macedonia. After the NATO aggression against Serbia and Montenegro, a large number of Albanians from Kosovo went to Macedonia. According to some estimates of the UN and others organizations, about 300,000 Albanians went to Macedonia. Permanent refuge in Macedonia, from then until now, has found about 150,000 Albanians who received Macedonian citizenship. This also significantly influenced the ethnic structure of Macedonia."

    2) Council of Europe calls on Albania to allow ethnic minorities to be counted in its 2020 census

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    The Council of Europe calls on Albania to conduct a realistic census of its ethnic minorities in 2020, allowing them to freely express their nationality. According to the Council, allowing the expression of national identity should definitely be one of the questions contained in the census forms, especially given that the 2011 census was largely boycotted by minorities. Then, the entire operation was conducted without involvement of minority representatives, the forms were in Albanian only and ethnic groups insist that the results were heavily manipulated.
    Last edited by Carlin; 03-23-2019, 07:42 AM.

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    • Carlin
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2011
      • 3332

      #62
      1) Census to also include Albanians who have not entered Macedonia for years

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      Deputy Prime Minister Bujar Osmani said on TV Klan Macedonia that Albanians who do not live and have not entered Macedonia for years will be included in the upcoming census.

      Basically, we overcame the dilemmas that the political parties had in organizing the census. We initially agreed to organize the census in 2020, with a combined method that would mean not registering in a traditional way when the data is obtained only from the citizens in their homes, but the data from all electronic databases of the institutions, whether it will be the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Pension Fund, the Health Fund and other institutions will be initially used, said Osmani.

      He explained that afterward that information will be checked and updated on the field, in the homes of the citizens.

      And this is a combined model that is a standard European model. In 2011, the apple of discord was the registration of those who do not live here in our country. If you remember, the solution back then was to register everyone who has entered Macedonia for at least the last twelve months. Now we have overcome all these dilemmas. Any citizen of North Macedonia, whether living here or living abroad, will be registered, it will be sufficient one of the members of their family to provide the personal identification number of the person, who is not currently in North Macedonia, to the member of the commission and they will check it in the electronic database, and in this way the person, whether they live here or not, will be registered, said the Deputy Prime Minister.


      2) Faced with the hot census issue, Zaev’s Government will allow emigrants to be counted along with the residents

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      The State Statistics Bureau director Apostol Simovski announced that the coming 2020 census will not be a typical census of residents, like the one held in 2002, but would be geared toward adding the migrants – citizens who left Macedonia and live abroad.

      We will try to cover as many people living abroad as possible. Their data is exceptionally important for us, given that Macedonia, like other countries around us, is unfortunately a high emigration country, said Simovski.

      The decision reflect a common political issue with the census in Macedonia, where the political weight of the ethnic Albanian community is constitutionally tied with it reaching the 20 percent mark of the total population. Ethnic Albanians in Macedonia have a higher birth rate compared to Macedonians, but also a higher emigration rate, and ever since the 2002 census doubts have been raised about the result putting the Albanian community at 25 percent. The issue became especially contentious during the failed 2011 census, when ethnic Albanian parties insisted that permanent and long term emigrants are tallied by Skype and introduced in the total count to bolster the percentage of Albanians. The census was called off mid work, after a joint position could not be reached.

      As the Zoran Zaev Government faced the same issue, it was initially proposed that census workers don’t ask the residents about their ethnic background. Outcry followed after this proposal as lack of an official document declaring the number of ethnic Macedonians in the country would have compounded the erosion of Macedonian national identity initiated with the Prespa treaty with Greece. So, the Zaev Government is now accepting to add permanent emigrants, who may have even given up their Macedonian citizenship, into the census data.


      3) Дијаспората ќе се попишува, но со посебен метод

      The diaspora will be included in the upcoming census, but not in a classic way. Persons who live abroad will register themselves using a special application on the web site of the Statistical Office, or data will be provided by their close relatives who live here.

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      Дијаспората ќе биде опфатена со претстојниот попис, но не на класичен начин. Лицата кои живеат во странство ќе се попишуваат самите, преку посебна апликација на веб страницата на заводот за статистика или, пак, податоци за нив ќе даваат нивни блиски роднини кои живеат овде.

      Ова денеска го најави директорот Апостол Симовски, велејќи дека, овие лица се вклучени во пописот затоа што во државата никој не го регистрира своето иселување и државата нема статистика колку наши државјани живеат во странство. Тврди дека методот е целосно безбеден и не треба да се стравува од злоупотреби.

      При пописот ќе се користат правила што ги пропишува меѓународната заедница во однос на дефинирањето на категориите на населението.

      Етничката графа останува, а како и досега, на терен ќе оди само еден попишувач, освен во етнички мешаните средини, каде ќе одат по двајца и повеќе попишувачи.

      Од владата најавија дека на следната седница ќе го разгледаат законот за попис на населението, за кој има начелен договор да се одржи идната пролет. Последниот успешен попис беше во 2002-та година, додека тој во 2011-та беше прекинат поради обвинувања за фалсификат.
      Last edited by Carlin; 03-29-2019, 09:32 PM.

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      • Gocka
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 2306

        #63
        Fucking retards. Can't even do something as simple as count!

        I'm a citizen who lives abroad, for almost 20 years. So as long as someone there submits my personal id number, I would be counted in the census, why? What value would someone like me add to their data gather. What policy decisions can they make based on someone like me being counted in a census.

        The only god damn reason censuses are conducted is to use the statistical data in crafting future policy. What future policy is based off of people WHO DON"T LIVE THERE!!!!

        Being Macedonian is like supporting that sports team that finishes last every season. Every season you start out optimistic that they will do better this year, then they lose every game and you eventually find yourself screaming at the TV.

        FUCK!

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        • Carlin
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2011
          • 3332

          #64
          Albanian language media full of stories of people emigrating out of Macedonia

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          Albanian media outlets in Macedonia are full of reports of on-going mass emigration into European Union countries. Macedonians and Albanians...


          29.04.2019

          Albanian media outlets in Macedonia are full of reports of on-going mass emigration into European Union countries. Macedonians and Albanians are leaving the country, but the phenomenon appears especially prominent among Albanians, as indicated by the exceptionally low turnout rates in the last several elections.

          Four buses from Saraj left for Germany. The phenomenon is picking up pace in this country. It’s driven by economic considerations and hope for a better life elsewhere, writes the Shkupi news site.

          And TV21 has a report about Sali Sadiku, rural doctor from the village of Jabolciste, who says Healthcare Fund bureaucratic red tape that harms his practice is the reason he has decided to abandon Macedonia.

          I ask my 532 patients for forgiveness for leaving my three year practice in Jabolciste. I’m extremely disappointed. My road will be the same as that of many others, I will emigrate, says Sadiku, who intends to move to either Germany or Belgium.

          The Zaev Government used promises that it will reverse migration out of Macedonia to win some votes in the 2016 elections, but has failed entirely to make the promise become reality.

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          • Carlin
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 3332

            #65
            Османи: Гласаа 200.000 Албанци; Таравари: Не е точно, гласаа 110.000 Албанци

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            Вицепремиерот за евроинтеграции Бујар османи од студиото на „Телма“ истакна дека во вториот круг од претседателските избори гласале околу 200.000 граѓани од албанска етничка националност.

            Во оние средини кои се со доминантно албанско насеение и мешани средини имаше 270.000 гласови. Според тоа, од нив сметаме дека околу 200 илјади се дадени од Албанците – рече членот на ДУИ чија партија во владината коалиција го поддржува Стево Пендаровски како кандидат за претседател на Македонија.

            Од друга страна, Арбен Таравари, генералниот секретар на Алијансата за Албанците рече дека бројката не е точна.

            Станува збор за 110.000 гласови од Албанците и тие не се само од ДУИ туку поддржувачи на сите други албански партии и неподржувачи – смета Таравари.

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            • Carlin
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 3332

              #66
              Kasami and Sela seek "multiethnic" teams throughout the country to conduct the census

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              Албанските опозициски партии БЕСА и Алијансата за Албанците на Биљал Касами и Зијадин Села најавуваат дека ќе поднесат неколку амандмани во однос на законот за попис во насока на деполизирање на процесот преку, како што велат, формирање на мултиетнички тимови за спроведување на статистичката операци


              Albanian opposition parties BESA and the Alliance for Albanians of Bilal Kasami and Ziadin Sela announce that they will submit several amendments to the census law in order to depolitize the process with the formation of multiethnic teams for carrying out the statistical operation.

              - To have a reliable census, normally, the teams that will conduct the census on the field must fulfill the multiethnic character. As in parts with an Albanian majority, where there are mixed teams, there must also be in the east where there are no Albanians. If there are Albanians who will conduct the census in the end, we will end up with an acceptable census - stated for Alsat M Arianit Hoxha, Secretary General of Besa.

              Flakron Bexheti of AA, meanwhile, suggested that the provisions for the diaspora census should be revised.

              - This is a good opportunity for citizens living abroad to have the opportunity to give their ID number to someone from the family. There is another opportunity to register online, and there is a suspicion that if one part is registered through a relative or a family member, and if at the same time some of them can be listed online, there will be a problem plus when it comes to criss-crossing the data - he said.

              VMRO-DPMNE has already said that if they are not involved in the preparation of the census law, it is possible for them to boycott the entire process.
              Last edited by Carlin; 06-22-2019, 02:50 PM.

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              • Carlin
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2011
                • 3332

                #67
                Menduh Thaci: DUI afraid of census, Albanians may be below 20%

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                DPA leader Menduh Thaci, speaking about the current situation in the country on TV 21’s “10 Minutes” show, said that...


                07.10.2019

                DPA leader Menduh Thaci, speaking about the current situation in the country on TV 21’s “10 Minutes” show, said that DUI is afraid of the census, as the number of Albanians may turn out to be below 20%, which would mean that DUI’s bad policies have forced Albanians to leave the country.

                DUI is afraid of conducting a census. They may not say it publicly, but in informal conversations they say there is a risk that the number of Albanians being below 20%. This may be true, but this truth also reveals another truth that since 2001, 19 or 18 years of DUI’s political and ruling action has resulted in a total fiasco. If today we are afraid that our number will be below 20%, then the analysis says that the Albanians have left the country, the Albanians saw no prospects here, the Albanians migrated and this is a very strong argument, Thaci said.

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                • Carlin
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 3332

                  #68
                  Business Insider: Macedonia among 20 countries facing population collapse



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                  Business Insider put Macedonia on its list of “20 countries facing population collapse”. The list relies on demographic data from...


                  Business Insider put Macedonia on its list of “20 countries facing population collapse”.

                  The list relies on demographic data from the United Nations and projects population of varius countries between 2020 and 2050.

                  Neighboring countries such as Bulgaria (1st on the list), Serbia (5th), Albania (10th) and Greece (12th) will see their populations decline by between 22.5 and 13.4 percent. This would turn Bulgaria in to 5.4 million strong country in 2050 and bring Albania to 2.5 million.

                  Macedonia is 18th on the Business Insider list. Our population is projected to shrink by 10.9 percent until 2050, down to 1.9 million, from the current level of 2.1 million.

                  Other Balkan countries on the list are Croatia, Bosnia and Romania, while the Baltics are also strongly represented. Ukraine, Italy and Japan are among the largest countries that face population collapse.

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                  • Carlin
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2011
                    • 3332

                    #69
                    Census postponed to April 2021

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                    The population census is postponed to April 2021, Telma reports. The Director of the State Statistical Office Apostol Simovski met...


                    The population census is postponed to April 2021, Telma reports. The Director of the State Statistical Office Apostol Simovski met Monday with Prime Minister Zaev and it was agreed that there is no room to postpone the Census for the following autumn, after the elections, since 2020 is still an election year. Statistics will submit a proposal to the Ministry of Justice by the end of this week requesting a postponement of this operation to 2021.

                    The census was originally scheduled for April 1 to April 30, 2020, but due to the early parliamentary elections scheduled for April 12 it must be postponed.

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                    • Carlin
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2011
                      • 3332

                      #70
                      Can anyone view the entire article?

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                      No one knows how many people live in North Macedonia
                      Which makes planning hard for the government

                      It is an odd admission for the boss of a national statistical agency. Not only are many of his numbers wrong, says Apostol Simovski, head of North Macedonia’s statistical office, but he has no idea what the right ones might be. Officially, there are 2.08m people in his country. In fact, he says: “I am afraid there are no more than 1.5m, but I cannot prove it.”

                      Countless calculations—income per head, number of bathtubs per head—depend on knowing how many heads there are. If Mr Simovski is right and there are 27.5% fewer people in North Macedonia than officially estimated, then gdp per head, among other things, will be much higher. However, the true population may be between 1.6m and 1.8m, says Izet Zeqiri, an economist. Until there is a census, no one will know.

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                      • Carlin
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2011
                        • 3332

                        #71
                        WILDLY WRONG: NORTH MACEDONIA’S POPULATION MYSTERY

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                        North Macedonia’s official population statistics are not just a little off — they are dramatically incorrect. And that has consequences.


                        Tim Judah
                        Skopje
                        BIRN

                        May 14, 2020

                        North Macedonia’s official population statistics are not just a little off — they are dramatically incorrect. And that has consequences.
                        According to the State Statistical Office, the population of North Macedonia is almost 2.08 million — or to be precise, 2,077,132 as of 31 December 2018.

                        The problem is this number is plain wrong.

                        At least that is the view of Apostol Simovski, the State Statistical Office’s own director. “I’m afraid there are no more than 1.5 million in the country, but I can’t prove it.”

                        If Simovski is right — and some think he is too pessimistic — then North Macedonia’s population would have fallen 24.6 per cent since independence in 1991 when the country had a resident population of 1.99 million.

                        This percentage would be far higher than for any other country in former Yugoslavia — even Bosnia and Herzegovina, which suffered four years of all-out war. It would also be even more dramatic than neighbouring Bulgaria, which has lost almost 21 per cent of its population in the past 30 years.

                        Some economists speculate that North Macedonia’s population is actually between 1.6 million and 1.8 million, which would still mean the country had lost between 19.6 per cent and 9.5 per cent of its population since 1991.

                        If it is the latter figure, North Macedonia’s population loss falls within the same range as Serbia and Croatia, which have lost between eight and nine per cent of their populations.

                        The problem is that no one knows the true number, and it is rare that the head of a national statistical office will admit that the most basic figure for their country is not just wrong but probably wildly so.

                        “Believe me,” he said. “I’m frustrated.”

                        No consensus

                        There is a good reason why Simovski does not know for sure how many people live in North Macedonia. In 2011, Macedonian and Albanian politicians interfered to such an extent in the holding of that year’s census that the exercise collapsed.

                        Macedonian nationalists wanted a result that showed that the country’s Albanian minority were less than 20 per cent of the population, he said. That is the threshold that gives ethnic Albanians certain rights under the Ohrid peace agreement of 2001, which pulled the country back from the brink of civil war.

                        In contrast to the Macedonian nationalists, ethnic Albanians unsurprisingly wanted to increase their share of the population by as much as possible.

                        Both sides encouraged their supporters to add so many family members living abroad — and hence ineligible to be included — that before the census was over they realised the inflated numbers would be so incredible “that no one would accept them”, so they aborted the process, Simovski said.

                        A new census due to be held in April this year was postponed until 2021 because a snap general election was called for the same month. That election was then postponed because of the coronavirus pandemic.

                        For that reason, North Macedonia still uses the population figure from the 2002 census as a baseline for all other data. Despite attempts at political interference back then, Simovski said the census was conducted well and can be considered reliable.

                        Thus, to get to today’s official population figure of almost 2.08 million, births and deaths and a very small number of immigrants and officially registered emigrants have been added to the 2002 census population figure of 2.02 million.

                        The fundamental problem is that hundreds of thousands have emigrated — but are not registered as having done so, and no one knows how many they are.

                        However, Verica Janeska of Skope’s Saints Cyril and Methodius University’s Economics Institute cautioned against using foreign data for the numbers of Macedonians abroad to try to estimate the total number of people in the country.

                        The reason, she said, is that these figures often contain “those who have left the country over the last four or five decades as well as second and third generation emigrants”.

                        Also, while it might be possible to make rough estimates of the population based on various national databases, none of them — by themselves — are fully reliable.

                        For example, tax data does not capture people in the grey economy. However, six national databases will, for the first time, be used to cross-reference the 2021 census.

                        Until then, “no one can give a realistic estimation of the total population”, Janeska said.

                        So, until the 2021 census is completed, not only is North Macedonia’s official population figure wrong but so is the rest of its data, which is calculated on the basis of how many live in the country such as gross domestic product per capita.

                        North Macedonia’s fertility rate is another example. Officially it stands at 1.42 children per woman, but if there are fewer than 2.08 million in the country, and hence fewer women of childbearing age, the fertility figure will be higher.

                        Follow the data

                        Macedonians have been emigrating since the late 19th Century but no one knows exactly how many live in the diaspora nor how many citizens are abroad. (See box.)

                        According to a Yugoslav census of 1921, there were almost 809,000 people in what is now North Macedonia. By 1971, according to Janeska, who has subtracted figures for those abroad and who were included in the census total, the country’s population had doubled to 1.64 million.

                        By 2002, of the 2.02 million in the country, 64 per cent were Macedonian, 25 per cent Albanian and the rest Roma, Turks, Macedonian Muslims and other minorities.

                        As everywhere else in Yugoslavia, the post-World War II period was one of industrialisation, urbanisation, education and social emancipation, especially for women. Across the world, these factors have always led to dramatic reductions in fertility rates and Yugoslav Macedonia was no exception.

                        At the same time, more babies survived childbirth and improving healthcare led to people living longer lives. All of this can be followed in the data.

                        In 1952, the number of live births peaked at just over 51,000 and in 1954 the republic’s natural increase — that is to say, births minus deaths — peaked at almost 34,300.

                        Ever since, both these numbers have declined. Last year, according to preliminary data, there were 687 more deaths than births, which would make 2019 the first time in history that deaths have exceeded births in the country.

                        Although there is no separate data for fertility rates for Macedonians, Albanians and other ethnic groups, Simovski and other experts believe that while in the Yugoslav period their demography was radically different, in recent years they have converged.

                        But he noted that ethnicity is not the key factor in North Macedonia as opposed to religious and hence cultural background.

                        Thus, Macedonian Christians began having far fewer children much earlier than Muslims, a cultural phenomenon that was paralleled in other parts of former Yugoslavia including Kosovo and Bosnia.

                        Of course, the largest part of the Muslim population of North Macedonia is ethnic Albanian.

                        Izet Zeqiri of South East European University in Tetovo said Albanian demographic trends in North Macedonia parallel those of Kosovo Albanians, which is to say a previously high birth rate that has collapsed over the past 30 years.

                        So while North Macedonia’s official if inaccurate fertility rate is 1.42, for the overwhelmingly Albanian-inhabited Polog region, it was 1.17 in 2018, which is even less than in some solidly Macedonian regions.


                        This reflects not just a sharp decline in the birth rate but the emigration of women of childbearing age too.

                        Because so many have left, North Macedonia has begun collating the data of babies born abroad who are registered as citizens. It is a crude statistic because other countries do not share information about babies who have their citizenship too, and not everyone abroad registers their babies with the Macedonian authorities.

                        Still, the number grows annually. In 2008, there were around 3,700 babies born abroad and in 2018 there were some 5,000. This means that almost one Macedonian baby was born abroad for every four at home.

                        Like everywhere else in Europe, Macedonians are getting older. Today life expectancy is 75.95 whereas in 1960 it was 60.6.

                        At the other end of the age scale, declining numbers mean fewer pupils in school every year. In 2018, there were 188,500 school students but in 2009, after upper secondary education had been made compulsory, there were 209,000. That is a decline of almost 10 per cent in less than a decade.

                        At the same time, almost all regions of the country have lost population apart from Skopje.

                        But now, according to Nikola Naumoski, the chief of staff of the mayor of Skopje, even the capital’s population is stagnating at around 600,000. While people from the rest of the country are still moving to the city, many of its residents are leaving the country at the same time, he said.

                        Labour shortages

                        Declining numbers are beginning to hit the economy.

                        For decades, North Macedonia has been plagued by unemployment but now the number of those without jobs is declining because there are fewer young people coming onto the labour market and because of emigration.

                        In the past three years, labour shortages have begun to bite seriously in certain sectors, said Silvana Mojsovska of the Economics Institute.

                        Services, particularly tourism, have been hard hit. Other sectors that lack labour are IT and retail. Doctors, medical professionals and construction workers are also leaving, or were until the outbreak of the coronavirus pandemic.

                        In the last few years, North Macedonia’s GDP has never increased by more than 3.8 per cent in any given year — and that is just not enough, Janeska said.

                        It would need to be consistently double that to result in an economy growing fast enough to be able to make staying at home more attractive than leaving.

                        In the wake of the global pandemic, it is unlikely that the economic situation in North Macedonia will improve and the effect on the rest of Europe and the world will also affect emigration, but so far it is too early to predict how things will change.

                        As elsewhere in the region then, people were leaving until the outbreak of the pandemic and may continue to do so afterwards, and not just because of money, said Janeska, but also for better career opportunities, for education, healthcare and to live in less corrupt and more politically stable environments.

                        Mojsovska added that worsening pollution was another factor pushing even well-paid professionals to leave. They are taking their children’s health into account, even if their standards of living are worse outside the country.

                        Going abroad for seasonal work is a deep-seated tradition in North Macedonia. While there is no hard data, it is clear that the phenomenon continues to this day.

                        Officially, for example, there are almost 1,600 Macedonians with residence permits for Malta. But Edmond Ademi, the Minister of the Diaspora, said that when he visited Malta he was told that in summer that number swells to up to 7,000. However, since many use Bulgarian passports, it is impossible to prove.

                        “How can you create an economic policy without knowing who is here and who is not?” Janeska said.

                        People are being “pulled” towards Germany and other countries that are opening their doors to labour from North Macedonia, an EU candidate country, and simultaneously “pushed” by low salaries and poor conditions at home.

                        One effect, she said, is that foreign investors are complaining.

                        “They say, ‘You promised us you had a labour force but now there is a lack of labour.’” And this, she added, “is a big economic problem”.

                        Unlike in richer Balkan countries such as Croatia, no one wants to come from abroad to work for Macedonian wages and conditions.

                        The demographic situation in North Macedonia is clearly dramatic but until there is a census no one will know how bad it is. And it will remain hard to plan properly for the country with no proper statistics.

                        In the meantime, demographers say it is important to remember that the issue concerns real people — not just numbers.

                        Janeska often visits family and friends in and around the northwestern city of Gostivar. She said that in winter “the city is more or less empty”. It fills up only when the diaspora are home in summer. Most people who live there all year round are old.

                        “They are very upset,” she said. “They say: ‘We are alone. Our children and grandchildren are abroad. They send us money, but we don’t want money. We want our families back.’”

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                        • Carlin
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2011
                          • 3332

                          #72
                          Ziadin Sela blames DUI of causing the exodus of Albanians from Macedonia

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                          Ziadin Sela, leader of the Alliance of Albanians, accused the DUI party of perpetrating ethnic cleansing of Albanians in Macedonia...


                          Ziadin Sela, leader of the Alliance of Albanians, accused the DUI party of perpetrating ethnic cleansing of Albanians in Macedonia with its continued corruption and failure to provide opportunities in the country. DUI has represented ethnic Albanians in the Macedonian Governments almost continuously since 2002, when it was created from the UCK/NLA terrorist organization that started the 2001 civil war. Sela pointed to the high emigration rate for ethnic Albanians from Macedonia as evidence of the effect of DUI’s policies.

                          Macedonian political parties are interested in having an ethnically clean Macedonian state, and together with DUI they are succeeding. Look at the emigration rate of Albanians. People are leaving the country because they are disappointed. DUI stole the last elections, Sela said.

                          His coalition with Alternative holds 12 seats in Parliament, opposed to 15 for DUI, and is currently expected to remain in the opposition. Macedonia has not held a census since 2002 due to resistance from ethnic Albanian parties, but anecdotal evidence shows a high emigration rate both among ethnic Macedonians and especially among ethnic Albanians. Sela’s party often points to the reduction of school-children in Albanian areas and the turnout rate in Albanian districts during elections often falls under 40 percent – indicating that a large share of the citizens are no longer residents.

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                          • Risto the Great
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                            • Sep 2008
                            • 15658

                            #73
                            I would say the ethnic Albanians are in a race to the bottom along with the Macedonians. Everyone is leaving!
                            Risto the Great
                            MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                            "Holding my breath for the revolution."

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                            • Liberator of Makedonija
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2014
                              • 1595

                              #74
                              This is interesting, I didn't realise the emigration rate was high for Albanians too
                              I know of two tragic histories in the world- that of Ireland, and that of Macedonia. Both of them have been deprived and tormented.

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                              • Carlin
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2011
                                • 3332

                                #75
                                Apparently Zaev announced that the census will be conducted in April 2021 without further delay.

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