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  • Daskalot
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 4345

    #61
    Pasko Kuzman Za Grobot na Aleksandar Makedonski

    YouTube - Pasko Kuzman Za Grobot na Aleksandar Makedonski

    If this is true what Pasko says then the Greeks will have a very big problem, very big......
    Macedonian Truth Organisation

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    • Daniel the Great
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 1084

      #62
      Is Aleksander the Great's tomb in Macedonia?

      Tomb of Alexander of Macedon is located on the Macedonian territory, but we must not excavated to avoid World War III breaks out, and wait for better times. This Pasko Kuzman said in the movie "The name is a name from the director Sigurjon Einarson. Kuzman, director of cultural heritage, made his comments through a smile, perhaps metaphorically, but if you really thought that we were unable to find out, because in a telephone interview told us he does not want to give a statement on the matter.

      Otherwise, the zavcherashnata premiere of the documentary before the packed hall cinema "Millennium" was attended by Prime Minister Nikola Gruevski, President George Ivanov, Minister of Culture Kanceska-Milevska and a number of ambassadors, filmmakers ... Macedonian and European premiere of the documentary that talks about the name issue and Greece did not appear the Greek ambassador, although he was invited.

      Due to great interest in cinema "Millennium" was announced and extraordinary projection of 23 hours, despite regular 21 hrs. Starting today, the documentary is shown in the Cinema "screening".

      Could Alexander the Great's tomb be in the Macedonian territory? i find that unlikely, but exciting if it is true.
      Image what would happen if a Macedonian found it first, the Greeks wouldn't be happy that's for sure.


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      На македонската и европска премиера на филмот кој зборува за проблемот со името и Грција не се појави грчката амбасадорка во земјава, иако беше поканета.

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      • julie
        Senior Member
        • May 2009
        • 3869

        #63
        Unless he was embalmed ancient Egyptian style, I doubt it. Macedonia is a long way from where he was poisoned
        "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse Delchev

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        • Daniel the Great
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 1084

          #64
          Originally posted by julie View Post
          Unless he was embalmed ancient Egyptian style, I doubt it. Macedonia is a long way from where he was poisoned

          Ye true, i believe he was killed in Babylon, is that correct? so i assume he would be buried there.

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          • Serdarot
            Member
            • Feb 2010
            • 605

            #65
            Originally posted by julie View Post
            Unless he was embalmed ancient Egyptian style, I doubt it. Macedonia is a long way from where he was poisoned
            well, from where he was poisoned he was transported to Egypt, and later transported to new location. somewhere in Makedonia

            I dont care if its in today´s greece, couse if its there, it is in Macedonia, probably in the Kostur or Voden region...

            p.s.

            abould balsaming Egyptian Style...

            beside King of Macedon, Shah-an-Shah of the Persians, and several other "titels", he was Egyptian Pharao, and after his death, he was transported to Egypt...
            Bratot:
            Никој не е вечен, а каузава не е нова само е адаптирана на новите услови и ќе се пренесува и понатаму.

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            • julie
              Senior Member
              • May 2009
              • 3869

              #66
              Yes. Still, the curator/historian, was quite adamant they had something, not necessarily buried in Macedonia, perhaps his remains (cant imagine much would be left) were sent on in secret to RoM
              That would be awesome. Gayreece would have kittens over that one.
              "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse Delchev

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              • julie
                Senior Member
                • May 2009
                • 3869

                #67
                Serdarot, good point, he was seen as their king, so would have had the full rituals associated with honouring their kings.
                Would be awesome if we had something so very precious to us, - just had an amazing thought - if they had Alexander's remains and did DNA tests on MACEDONIANS using his DNA and Gayreeks, we would be able to shut the Hellarse up once and for all on that issue!!!
                "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse Delchev

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                • Daniel the Great
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 1084

                  #68
                  Julie, that would be fantastic wow imagine that.

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                  • julie
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 3869

                    #69
                    Which is why he probably said it would start world war 3.
                    "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse Delchev

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                    • thessalo-niki
                      Banned
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 191

                      #70
                      (from wikipedia)

                      Alexander's body was placed in a gold anthropoid sarcophagus, which was in turn placed in a second gold casket. According to Aelian, a seer called Aristander foretold that the land where Alexander was laid to rest "would be happy and unvanquishable forever". Perhaps more likely, the successors may have seen possession of the body as a symbol of legitimacy (it was a royal prerogative to bury the previous king).At any rate, Ptolemy stole the funeral cortege, and took it to Memphis. His successor, Ptolemy II Philadelphus, transferred the sarcophagus to Alexandria, where it remained until at least Late Antiquity. Ptolemy IX Lathyros, one of the last successors of Ptolemy I, replaced Alexander's sarcophagus with a glass one so he could melt the original down for issues of his coinage. Pompey, Julius Caesar and Augustus all visited the tomb in Alexandria, the latter allegedly accidentally knocking the nose off the body. Caligula was said to have taken Alexander's breastplate from the tomb for his own use. In c. AD 200, Emperor Septimius Severus closed Alexander's tomb to the public. His son and successor, Caracalla, was a great admirer of Alexander, and visited the tomb in his own reign. After this, details on the fate of the tomb are sketchy.
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                      Odysseas Elytis - Our name is our soul

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                      • The LION will ROAR
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 3231

                        #71
                        Gravesite of Alexander the Great found?
                        The Macedonians originates it, the Bulgarians imitate it and the Greeks exploit it!

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                        • julie
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2009
                          • 3869

                          #72
                          He was brought back to his beloved fatherland and put to rest.
                          "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse Delchev

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                          • George S.
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2009
                            • 10116

                            #73
                            A more recent episode associated with the mysterious fate of Alexander's remains took place in 1798, when Napoleon Bonaparte's armies invaded Egypt through Alexandria. In the courtyard of the mosque that had once been the church of St. Athanasius, standing inside a small open building, was a handsome, heavy sarcophagus carved from a single block of rare, beautiful, dark green breccia. It was decorated, inside and out, with Egyptian hieroglyphics. Although it was being used as a cistern for worshipers' ablutions before prayers, locals referred to it as "the tomb of Alexander." French troops removed it and transported it to the hold of a French hospital ship. It was said that they intended to bring it to Paris, where a monument to Napoleon would be built around it, thus associating the latter with Alexander the Great in much the same way rulers had done since Ptolemy first hijacked the funeral cortege in southern Turkey.

                            But in 1801, the British invaded Egypt and expelled the French. Antiquaries attached to the British forces knew about the so-called "Alexander sarcophagus" from travelers' writings. They searched for it specifically, removed it from the French ship, and today the sarcophagus is not in Paris, but in London, on display in the British Museum. At first, British scholars rationalized that the hieroglyphic text covering its inner and outer surfaces was attributable to Alexander's role as an Egyptian god, but the decipherment of hieroglyphics a few decades later—thanks to the Rosetta Stone, which had been carried off by the British at the same time as the sarcophagus—made it obvious that it had been carved for the last native Egyptian pharaoh, Nectanebo II, who had ruled from 360 to 343 BC. Historians and archeologists concluded that this sarcophagus had never contained the body of Alexander; that it came to be called "Alexander's tomb" is an example of the great flourishing of legend and false attribution about the conqueror that began even during his lifetime.

                            One branch of this thicket of association connects the breccia sarcophagus, Nectanebo II and Alexander himself. Alexander's mother, Queen Olympias, had been devoted to the rites of Orpheus and Dionysus, which sometimes featured the presence of large snakes that were believed to represent or embody the gods. It is known that Olympias kept one such snake in her chamber, and after Alexander's birth Olympias was said to have declared that her son had not been sired by his mortal father, King Philip, but by the Egyptian god Ammon, who had taken the form of the snake. For his part, Philip apparently believed this tale and considered his wife an adulteress.

                            Beginning shortly after Alexander's death, a more fantastic tale began to circulate. According to this story, when Nectanebo II, now said to be an adept of the magic arts, fled the Persian occupation of his country in 343 BC, he went not to southern Egypt but to Macedonia, there to beget an avenger of his country's defeat. Olympias gave him refuge in Philip's court, and, casting her horoscope, Nectanebo predicted that she would give birth to a son, a hero, fathered by Ammon. The pharaoh, who could indeed claim to represent Ammon, fulfilled his own prophesy by seducing the then childless Olympias, and the offspring of their union was none other than Alexander! This is, of course, largely pharaonic propaganda, designed after the fact to bolster the Egyptian spiritual claim to Alexander, for in reality it is not only well documented that Nectanebo never set foot in Macedonia, or anywhere else in Greece, but in 343, when he supposedly went there, Alexander was already 13 years old. Nonetheless, the story may have inspired the connection of the breccia sarcophagus of Nectanebo II with the memory of Alexander.

                            There exists yet another "Alexander Sarcophagus," a magnificent, monumental work of marble discovered by accident in 1887, in what turned out to be a royal necropolis in Sidon, a city on the Mediterranean in what is today Lebanon. This extraordinary monument, still in nearly perfect condition and now in the Istanbul Archaeological Museum, is the work of an unknown Greek master sculptor, carved in the classic Hellenic style from a pure white marble quarried in the Pentelic mountains northeast of Athens—the same material used to build the Parthenon and other famous works of the classical period. Around its perimeter are animated scenes of Alexander himself hunting, and battling the Persians. It has been estimated to date from the last quarter of the fourth century BC, and its intended purpose is unknown. Is it possible it was made to receive Alexander's remains? As a work of art, it is certainly worthy to have been used for this purpose.

                            But as tempting it is to make the connection, archeologists and historians have concluded that this sarcophagus was more than likely carved for the body of a king of Sidon, Abdalonymos, a few years after Alexander's death. Abdalonymos was a Phoenecian who ordered it made to commemorate his close friendship with Alexander, who had had him appointed ruler of the region. In fact, historians now believe that the use of any sarcophagus to carry Alexander's body on that long last trip was unlikely. As the remains were originally to be sent to Siwa, Alexander's body was prepared in the Egyptian manner by Egyptian embalmers. Also, the close-fitted gold sheathing surrounding the body was a style used for royalty, and designed to be seen, not hidden by stone, however beautifully carved.

                            Few figures in history have been studied more, written about more, or spoken of more than Alexander the Great, whether seriously by scholars, fantastically by unknown compilers of legends, or personally by tribesmen who, even today, claim descent from his Macedonian troops. Some still dream and hope that, somewhere in the catacombs under the Mosque of Prophet Daniel, his remains might yet be discovered. But extensive explorations and excavations have been made in Alexandria, under the mosque and elsewhere, and no trace has been found either of the royal Ptolemaic necropolis or of Alexander's tomb.

                            The story of what happened to Alexander's remains remains a mystery.
                            "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                            GOTSE DELCEV

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                            • Bill77
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2009
                              • 4545

                              #74
                              Perdiccas, whose long record of loyal service ran back to the days of Alexander's father, Philip II, wanted the body transported to Macedonia for burial. Mabe eventually he got his wish.
                              http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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                              • Bill77
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 4545

                                #75
                                Originally posted by thessalo-niki View Post
                                (from wikipedia)

                                Alexander's body was placed in a gold anthropoid sarcophagus, which was in turn placed in a second gold casket. According to Aelian, a seer called Aristander foretold that the land where Alexander was laid to rest "would be happy and unvanquishable forever". Perhaps more likely, the successors may have seen possession of the body as a symbol of legitimacy (it was a royal prerogative to bury the previous king).At any rate, Ptolemy stole the funeral cortege, and took it to Memphis. His successor, Ptolemy II Philadelphus, transferred the sarcophagus to Alexandria, where it remained until at least Late Antiquity. Ptolemy IX Lathyros, one of the last successors of Ptolemy I, replaced Alexander's sarcophagus with a glass one so he could melt the original down for issues of his coinage. Pompey, Julius Caesar and Augustus all visited the tomb in Alexandria, the latter allegedly accidentally knocking the nose off the body. Caligula was said to have taken Alexander's breastplate from the tomb for his own use. In c. AD 200, Emperor Septimius Severus closed Alexander's tomb to the public. His son and successor, Caracalla, was a great admirer of Alexander, and visited the tomb in his own reign. After this, details on the fate of the tomb are sketchy.
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                                Odysseas Elytis - Our name is our soul
                                East Roman emperor Theodosius I (379-395) finally declared the state religion in 392, banning public pagan rites throughout the empire. Alexandria was fast becoming a key Christian center, and though the many pagan temples and shrines in the city were not at first affected, zealots among both groups clashed with increasing frequency. The patriarch of Alexandria at the time was Theophilus, a hierarch of great faith, energy and anti-pagan passion. He enthusiastically directed the conversion of pagan institutions into churches, was instrumental in the destruction, in 391, of Alexandria's great Temple of Sarapis, a pagan shrine which dated back to early Ptolemaic times, and took other steps to speed the conversion of the city to an entirely Christian metropolis.

                                A number of historians hypothesize that that the anti-pagan forces had demolished the tomb of Alexander and destroyed his corpse by 397. There are no direct accounts, and the tomb of Alexander is not mentioned in any of the sources of the time, which are otherwise often quite detailed. Yet we may draw inferences from such documents as the writings of John Chrysostom, bishop of Constantinople from 398 to 404. Drawing a contrast with the veneration paid the sepulchers of the Christian martyrs, he challenges, "Where is now the tomb of Alexander? Show me! Tell me the day of his death!"


                                I can give you the link of where i found this thessa, but i did not get it from wiki, therefor it might not be of any interest to you.

                                So, did the East Roman emperor Theodosius I, together with The patriarch of Alexandria at the time "Theophilus", who was instrumental in the destruction, in 391, of Alexandria's great Temple, realy demolish the tomb of Alexander and destroyed his corpse?........Or did they merely remove all evidence of Alexander and Ptolemy (who was also looked upon as a God) and re buried them else where. Rome mabe? mabe in Macedonia in the company of Alexander's royal ancestors.

                                If they did demolish the tomb of Alexander and destroyed his corpse,
                                Then they must have grounded all evidence to dust and left no stone unturned (i doubt it) because,
                                extensive explorations and excavations have been made in Alexandria, and elsewhere, and no trace has been found either of the royal Ptolemaic necropolis or of Alexander's tomb.
                                http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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