I personally don't like words that stand for groups that end in -ics, like Germanics, Slavonics, etc. It reminds me of something like mechanics, doesn't fit people really. Instead I use Germanians and Slavonians.
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Originally posted by Philosopher View PostI agree with much of what you write; why Hungary in the matter?
Why not Romania? Because Romania is close to Serbia and Greece?
Moreover, why Ukraine?
Some of your arguments don't seem to have any validity.
Nation states act in their own self-interest; what interest does Germany have in Macedonia? Exchange military knowledge? Explain.
And why Germany as opposed to Italy? I understand that Germany is the engine of Europe in economic terms but I question what Germans would want with Macedonians. I don't see a bondship or friendship developing there.
In fact, I see Germany and the people of the Balkans (so called "Slavic" people) have never really gotten along all that well.
Macedonia is in a bind; if Macedonia was united, and had the Aegean port, it would greatly bolster Macedonia's resolve and power. It would have better revenue from tourism, both for the beaches and the historic sites of ancient Macedonia; it would have better trade, because of the sea; it would have better exports, becaue of the olives and olive oil; and it would have better real estate, because of the beauty and historic nature of the region.https://germanictribes.proboards.com/
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Originally posted by Slovak/Anomaly/Tomas View PostI personally don't like words that stand for groups that end in -ics, like Germanics, Slavonics, etc. It reminds me of something like mechanics, doesn't fit people really. Instead I use Germanians and Slavonians.
I've no problem with it.https://germanictribes.proboards.com/
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Originally posted by fatso View PostGreat thread. This is very important and should be followed through. Macedonia needs friends and allies. Once this is established ...then maybe her neighbours will wake up.https://germanictribes.proboards.com/
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Germanian you are then. The problem is that in the Slavic languages 'German' means 'Germanic'. The word for 'German' in Slavic is 'Nemec' or 'Nemac' (c=ts).अयं निज: परो वेति गणना लघुचेतसाम्।
उदारमनसानां तु वसुधैव कुटुंबकम्॥
This is mine or (somebody) else’s (is the way) narrow minded people count.
But for broad minded people, (whole) earth is (like their) family.
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Originally posted by Thorvald View PostOk, lets build bridges
As far as I see (correct if wrong) Macedonia is surrounded by neighbours whom dont respect you guys.
1: Greece on top, with their pathetic Hellenic wetdreams of imperialism
2: Bulgaria, who think its a right to claim Macedonians as a Bulgar minority. Speaking of ignorance
3: Albania. With a large Albanian minority in Macedonia we have here a serious demographic problem, which can result one day in Albanian secessionist ''Greater Albania''
4: Serbia. The whole world knows what Serbs are up to.
5: Turkey. Islamic country trying to get a foothold in Balkans, pan-Turkicism is dangerous.
My proposal, please correct or give your opinion:
My proposal is that Macedonia seeks closer co-operation with former Yugoslav republics like Croatia, Monte-Negro, Slovenia, and Bosnia. They all suffered under Serb oppression.
Croatia and Monte-Negrocan provide Macedonian rights on use of sea-port for Macedonian Navy.
Germany and Macedonia could exchange military knowledge and economical investments.
Hungary; shared interests.
Closer connection with Ukraine.
I know its sound idealistic, and maybe impossible, but Germany can chance; and Macedonian organisations in Germany can help with this.
We need to resist Serb and Greek lobbies in Western Europe.
Hi Thorvlad,
I agree with alot of what you have to say my friend, however:
Turkey: The turks are not a enemy of macedonia, but a great friend and ally. I think they are one of macedonia''s "trump card" in this whole crazy litle game that macedonia is playing with grease. Turkey is also a regional power in the balkans, middle east and the caucasus. The strategic alliance of israel-Turkey-USA and possibly macedonia seems like a very strong one.
I agree with having excellent ties with countries like Bosnia,Croatia and slovenia. Macedonians have a excellent relationship with slovenia and the croats are our brothers. The serbian oppresion we have all faced is another factor that brings us closer.
But in saying that the montenegrins even though have good ties with macedonia are basically serbs - whats to say 20 years from now they are seduced by serbian nationalism and start having dreams of "southern serbia" again? I dont trust them.
I like the idea of having good ties with Ukraine but i think macedonia should have ties are not "too close" - i would hate to see macedonia get involved in the dispute between ukrain and russia. Remember last time macedonia got invovled in the dispute between China and Taiwan? We cant afford to get a world power angry at us again.
Romaina: This is a interesting one. On one hand they would be good value to us as they have access to the black sea and also they hate the bulgarians and greeks. And most importantly they know how much of a important part vlach have played in macedonian history and that we have always have looked after the vlach people. However on the other hand romanians in Ottoman times made "schools" and "churches" ie propaganda tools, to brainwashi the vlach into thinking they are romanians. This policy still happens today and in romania there are 2 macedonian minoritys - the "slav macedonians" and also the macedonians (who are vlach from macedonia, basically this is romania saying the vlach are the "true" macedonians"). However even though Romania believes such crazy things i think they would be great allies - from memory their orthodox church has been the only church that has respected and stood up for the macedonian church.
In the end though because macedonia is a land locked country it makes things very difficult for us.
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A thoughtful response Sven.
I still see Romania as more useful to us than less.Risto the Great
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Idont trust Turks on this at all, primarly for its ottoman empire past history. Sure there are Turks around there dreaming of a resurrection of the Turkish power on the Balkans.https://germanictribes.proboards.com/
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