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my mother does not have a birth certificate
As of beginning of this year some stupid new legislation came into effect, right at the time my mother applied for a new passport
My mother has never had a birth certificate
The reason this is all ludicrous, is years after the civil war, my baba Dimitra Gorchilova Papadimitriou was granted a passport to go to the Republic, and my mother as an 8 year old came under that passport
My mother has no identity papers or other citizenship
At age 18 she applied to come to Oz under the sponsorship programmes for migrants , at 19 she travelled sans passport, but with an identity paper she showed me a few years ago, a piece of paper, that is it
In 1969 she wanted to become a naturalised Australian citizen, with me as a 3 year old and my yet to be born brother, decided with my dad that this was their new country
She is an Australian citizen, NO other citizenship , birth certificates etc
As I went with mum here in Adelaide will explain her torturous ordeal to obtain a new passport a few months ago, as Aunt Ratka in Belgrade, her dying sister was terminal and given months to live
Mum had previously travelled overseas in 1972 and 1991, both those passports expired, and both those passports had place of birth - selo dolno Kotori, Lerin
Now, with the new bullshit whatever harder legislation money spinner making it even harder for people with the stupid identity checks ( BTW took me FIVE months last year to finally get my own passport, within a month of our travelling date)
Mum was told . having divorced dad several years ago, she did not have enough points with her POPOVSKA name instead of the LAZAREVSKI name. She was told she had to have a birth certificate , or, rather something similar to a legal change of name by deed poll, , almost $500 later, she got this, and her request was specifically to put place of birth in fucking Greek Katy Idrussa because she wanted no trauma going home
This was impossible because the passport office said they MUST use her original place of birth as dolno kotori
Twice she went through a legal crappy revised name legal documentation with a certificate of her name and birth with DOLNO KOTORI - them saying, they could not use anything else because she did not have anything to state whse was born there
I am trying to do this really simply because it has pissed me off no end, the trauma she has gone through and trying to explain to everyone why
NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS FUCKING BULLSHIT FROM EITHER GREECE OF FUCKING AUSTRALIA
The passport office assured her, if there were any problems to let her know
I BLEW MY FUCKING STACK AT THEM, AND GUESS WHAT, THEY DENIED SAYING ANY OF THIS SHIT
SHE was also refused a passport if she did not have selo dolno kotori on it
this is the dumbed down version, am so frustrated
am sorry, i am livid in having to explain to australia and greece this is utter bullshit no one should endure
SO, when she went BY HERSELF a woman alone, driven by a cousin to the border with other cousins waiting on the other side, her passport was confiscated. SHe was advised she could not enter on the grounds dolno kotori does not exist
She was also refused her passport back and being quite upset at being told she will nevert see her family home again, did what I would have done, signed the document to get my passport back so I can get on a flight back home
There were some journalists at the border already for some reason, and she asked them to please publish this in the media , to which the tito srbomani yugodonians replied.....odi isplachise na Belgrade
so RoMacedonians still spit on egejtsi
NICE you take our money but wont help
I am really angry with a lot of people right now, in fact am livid,
As for the Australian Embassy and the Department of Foreign affairs, if people dont believe me, make a call and get their response the moment they find out you are Macedonian.....we dont get involved in internal affairs
As Angliski (BTW Welcome broand thanks) has stated, it is every border official's perogative to refuse entry to anyone, regardless even if they have a visa
As for my mother Vodenka, flying ion from Italy etc to Solun, would you like to fund that? Please, if you like you can, she borrowed against her mortgage her sister was dying, as it was thanks to the fucking Oz govt she only got 5 days with her sister until she died in her arms (bog da te prosti teta)
As for media , guess what ? we are peasants, nobodies, fleas on maggots, we are only MACEDONIAN they dont give a rat shit the media and the australian government continues to be bum fucked by Greece, they must really enjoy it, because they refuse to make any changes
I am awaiting information, have been assured is coming very soon, to pass onto the AMHRC, who ARE THE ONLY ORGANISATION ASIDE FROM THE MTO THAT ARE TRUE FIGHTERS AND INTERESTED IN THE MACEDONIAN CAUSE AND PEOPLE, INCLUDING MY MOTHER
NO ONE gives a rats arse, George, you want to chat up Bob Carr you have brought up few times, be my guest, I have had enough of lying snivelling self serving parliamentarians that are flip flops when it comes to their integrity
I have a small glimmer of hope with the AMHRC, but if nothing can be done for my mother, like others before her, may this awful tragicv experience,. seeing she will never be going back overseas again, not be repeated, and EVERY macedonian have a checklist with them in case of fuckwit Greeks not letting them in
Sorry if this is patronising, it has consumed my every second the last few days and have exhausted every combination and permutation there is, that and the lack of sleep and the huge ulcers in my stomach are upsetting me
I appreciate and thank RTG so very much for putting this on, at a time I had no access to a computer, being bedridden as usual, and am just avbout ready if a greek prick dares top respond in a derogatory manner on this thread, ready to go to jail, fill in the blanks
my mother does not have a birth certificate
As of beginning of this year some stupid new legislation came into effect, right at the time my mother applied for a new passport
My mother has never had a birth certificate
The reason this is all ludicrous, is years after the civil war, my baba Dimitra Gorchilova Papadimitriou was granted a passport to go to the Republic, and my mother as an 8 year old came under that passport
My mother has no identity papers or other citizenship
At age 18 she applied to come to Oz under the sponsorship programmes for migrants , at 19 she travelled sans passport, but with an identity paper she showed me a few years ago, a piece of paper, that is it
In 1969 she wanted to become a naturalised Australian citizen, with me as a 3 year old and my yet to be born brother, decided with my dad that this was their new country
She is an Australian citizen, NO other citizenship , birth certificates etc
As I went with mum here in Adelaide will explain her torturous ordeal to obtain a new passport a few months ago, as Aunt Ratka in Belgrade, her dying sister was terminal and given months to live
Mum had previously travelled overseas in 1972 and 1991, both those passports expired, and both those passports had place of birth - selo dolno Kotori, Lerin
Now, with the new bullshit whatever harder legislation money spinner making it even harder for people with the stupid identity checks ( BTW took me FIVE months last year to finally get my own passport, within a month of our travelling date)
Mum was told . having divorced dad several years ago, she did not have enough points with her POPOVSKA name instead of the LAZAREVSKI name. She was told she had to have a birth certificate , or, rather something similar to a legal change of name by deed poll, , almost $500 later, she got this, and her request was specifically to put place of birth in fucking Greek Katy Idrussa because she wanted no trauma going home
This was impossible because the passport office said they MUST use her original place of birth as dolno kotori
Twice she went through a legal crappy revised name legal documentation with a certificate of her name and birth with DOLNO KOTORI - them saying, they could not use anything else because she did not have anything to state whse was born there
I am trying to do this really simply because it has pissed me off no end, the trauma she has gone through and trying to explain to everyone why
NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THIS FUCKING BULLSHIT FROM EITHER GREECE OF FUCKING AUSTRALIA
The passport office assured her, if there were any problems to let her know
I BLEW MY FUCKING STACK AT THEM, AND GUESS WHAT, THEY DENIED SAYING ANY OF THIS SHIT
SHE was also refused a passport if she did not have selo dolno kotori on it
this is the dumbed down version, am so frustrated
am sorry, i am livid in having to explain to australia and greece this is utter bullshit no one should endure
SO, when she went BY HERSELF a woman alone, driven by a cousin to the border with other cousins waiting on the other side, her passport was confiscated. SHe was advised she could not enter on the grounds dolno kotori does not exist
She was also refused her passport back and being quite upset at being told she will nevert see her family home again, did what I would have done, signed the document to get my passport back so I can get on a flight back home
There were some journalists at the border already for some reason, and she asked them to please publish this in the media , to which the tito srbomani yugodonians replied.....odi isplachise na Belgrade
so RoMacedonians still spit on egejtsi
NICE you take our money but wont help
I am really angry with a lot of people right now, in fact am livid,
As for the Australian Embassy and the Department of Foreign affairs, if people dont believe me, make a call and get their response the moment they find out you are Macedonian.....we dont get involved in internal affairs
As Angliski (BTW Welcome broand thanks) has stated, it is every border official's perogative to refuse entry to anyone, regardless even if they have a visa
As for my mother Vodenka, flying ion from Italy etc to Solun, would you like to fund that? Please, if you like you can, she borrowed against her mortgage her sister was dying, as it was thanks to the fucking Oz govt she only got 5 days with her sister until she died in her arms (bog da te prosti teta)
As for media , guess what ? we are peasants, nobodies, fleas on maggots, we are only MACEDONIAN they dont give a rat shit the media and the australian government continues to be bum fucked by Greece, they must really enjoy it, because they refuse to make any changes
I am awaiting information, have been assured is coming very soon, to pass onto the AMHRC, who ARE THE ONLY ORGANISATION ASIDE FROM THE MTO THAT ARE TRUE FIGHTERS AND INTERESTED IN THE MACEDONIAN CAUSE AND PEOPLE, INCLUDING MY MOTHER
NO ONE gives a rats arse, George, you want to chat up Bob Carr you have brought up few times, be my guest, I have had enough of lying snivelling self serving parliamentarians that are flip flops when it comes to their integrity
I have a small glimmer of hope with the AMHRC, but if nothing can be done for my mother, like others before her, may this awful tragicv experience,. seeing she will never be going back overseas again, not be repeated, and EVERY macedonian have a checklist with them in case of fuckwit Greeks not letting them in
Sorry if this is patronising, it has consumed my every second the last few days and have exhausted every combination and permutation there is, that and the lack of sleep and the huge ulcers in my stomach are upsetting me
I appreciate and thank RTG so very much for putting this on, at a time I had no access to a computer, being bedridden as usual, and am just avbout ready if a greek prick dares top respond in a derogatory manner on this thread, ready to go to jail, fill in the blanks
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