Goran Pandev

[Bratot]

Again:

Serie A Team Of The Week: Round 23

Julio Sergio

Maicon – Dainelli – Kjaer – Bellini

Rossi – Zanetti – Simplicio – Valdes

Pandev – Di Natale


Goran Pandev (Inter): Coach Jose Mourinho described his performance as ‘stratospheric’ and the Macedonian certainly was in form at the San Siro against Cagliari. He was active for the full ninety, striking after six minutes for the first goal and also setting up the third for the Nerazzurri.

http://www.rs.goal.com/en/news/1717/editorial/2010/02/08/1781026/serie-a-team-of-the-week-round-23

[Spartan]

As I told you a while back, its obvious you dont understand the game of football very well!!! Especailly if Tommy Smyth is your source of information.

Hes a better source than you, and i dont take his word as gospel....just a profssional opinion on the matter.

Have you ever played the game?

My whole life

It seems you are only good to bring up some links to support your biased view. The internet does not always have relaiable information.

Yeah, fifa.com is very unreliable

Yesterday Pandev played 90 minutes for Inter and Eto only 60 and both were starters, because they are different players.

Nowhere did I say they were identical players, I said they were both inn the mould of a number 2 striker. My point was if it comes down to a choice between Pandev and Eto, and both are in peak form...it will be Eto who is chosen.

So where is your argument that Pandev was brought to replace Eto only during the African Cup.

Go back and check the FIVE links I provided, one of them being FIFA.COM. All the info is there

I still think your greekness was a cause of this thread and not the ability of Pandev or his apparanent similr style play to Eto.

I think your macedonianess is the reason for your blind defence of anything you consider anti-pandev (which i am not). There is no other way to explain you telling me Pandev is better than Eto
And I dont know any thing about football???

[Spartan]

Again Pandev is not a striker

With fourstrikers to choose from, Mourinho was asked how he will rotate Eto'o, Pandev, Milito, Balotelli in the coming months

Thank you Bratot for providing this excerpt.
Maybe he'll believe your sources since they dont come from a Greek.

[Prolet]

Spartan, I consider you more of a Spartan then a Greek LOL

Either way im not about to question anybodies identity, Pandev is in the form of his life you wouldnt wanna bet against him in this current form right now. Every club in the world would dream to have a player like him both scoring and setting up goals.

Tommy Smyth with a Y is hardly a credible source, seeing that you come from North America you might agree with him however in the football world he is hardly a credible source.

[Bratot]

Thank you Bratot for providing this excerpt.
Maybe he'll believe your sources since they dont come from a Greek.

Nobody deny that Pandev is a striker, but for a football guru such as you, should know that the position of striker vary in terms of the role in the forward line, you have the next forward positions:

1. The centre forward (CF)
2. Striker (ST)
3. Second Striker (SS) inside forwards.

In the game with Cagliari we have seen Pandev-Eto-Milito in the forward line.

They scored 2 of 3 goals for Inter.

So what is the problem?

[Spartan]

Bratot, there is no problem my friend.
I never said they cant play together, just that with the return of Eto, there will be less minutes to go around.
Against a team like Calgiari, or any other mid table to weaker italian club, Inter will play with 2 or 3 strikers so they can all get minutes.
However, against tuffer competition, for example AC, Juve, Roma or against europes elite in the cl, they will most likely opt to play a more defensive game considering the prestige, and money on the line. This will most likely equate to a formation with only 1 or 2 strikers. Therefore one would have to conclude, considering his pedigree, and assuming he is healthy and in good-top form, Eto will be one of them.
Inter is a great team, and no doubt even better with the aquisition of Pandev, but competition in training for a spot in the starting 11 will be stiff considering they have 4 great forwards.

[Spartan]

Nobody deny that Pandev is a striker

Well, Warrior seems to think he is better in an attacking mid role which I strongly disagree with. I think he is best as a '#2 striker', and his position is listed as a 'striker'. Im not saying he cant fill an AM role adequately, just that it is not where he is at his best.

Can Pandev play a deep role behind the lone striker or two. Of course he can. That is where he is most dangerous

[Spartan]

Spartan, I consider you more of a Spartan then a Greek LOL

Thanks!!.... I think

Either way im not about to question anybodies identity, Pandev is in the form of his life you wouldnt wanna bet against him in this current form right now.

I agree, and I stated this in one of my initial posts in this topic. He is in peak form right now, and it would be hard to leave him out of the 11.
However, a footballers form is a fickle thing. It goes up and down. Especially a striker. One day you are god, the next benched!

Every club in the world would dream to have a player like him both scoring and setting up goals.

This I think is a bit of an overstatement. There are teams in europe, not many mind you but a handful at least, that would not be interested in Pandev for anything other than cover and depth.

Tommy Smyth with a Y is hardly a credible source, seeing that you come from North America you might agree with him however in the football world he is hardly a credible source.

Not sure what being from North America has anything to do with it, but whatever. Are aussies some how more knowledgable in regards to football?? If yes, why??
As for TS, it was just an opinion from someone who knows Etos game far better than anyone on this forum. Im not claiming he is a genius, but he isnt an idiot either. I have read many accurate assessments of players, games, teams over the years from TS. He is a proffesional analyst afterall, and is paid wellfor his assesments. Is it possible you could provide examples as to his apparent 'lack of credibility', and explain why any of our opinions are more credible? Thanks in advance.
Ive watched a lot of Barcelona over the years , and I agree with TS on this one in regards to Etos game/style. Which part of his assesment do you disagree concerning Eto?

[Bratot]

I think Pandev has one particular additional quality for a striker that Eto is missing, finding his teammates and setting up goals for them and that is the main reason why actually Pandev will more likely play as second striker.

But so far he has answered on every challenge, he can easily addapt on different role.

[Spartan]

I agree Pandev is a '#2 striker' (as I stated above), and I dont doubt he can adapt to a new position. Personally, I would never try to change his role if i were the coach though, as he is great at what he does. 'No need to fix something that isnt broken' comes to mind...but thats just my opinion, and how I would confront the situation if I were Mourinho.

Also, I think it is unfair to compare Eto and Pandev ( and 97% of europes strikers for that matter, lol). Eto is simply in a class of his own as far as im concerned.

[Warrior]

I agree Pandev is a '#2 striker' (as I stated above), and I dont doubt he can adapt to a new position. Personally, I would never try to change his role if i were the coach though, as he is great at what he does. 'No need to fix something that isnt broken' comes to mind...but thats just my opinion, and how I would confront the situation if I were Mourinho.

Also, I think it is unfair to compare Eto and Pandev ( and 97% of europes strikers for that matter, lol). Eto is simply in a class of his own as far as im concerned.

Your problem is that you dont understand the game well. I said all along that Pandev is not out and out striker. ( Do you know that term means?). He is most dangerous when coming from deep and is not being kicked by the defenders from behind and can run at defenders. Where Eto is very much an out and out striker. If you dont believe me just have a look at the formation and the game.

Most teams play with 2 strikers. What does that mean? Both strikers or centre forwards standing next to each other. Also one is a deep striker and the other is a target man.

Also your argument that Eto is better player than Pandev is flawed. They are not playing for the same postion, if you watched the last game you woud see they are totally different players.

[Spartan]

Your problem is that you dont understand the game well.

Of course. Everytime you have put your foot in your mouth you question my 'understanding of the game". How convenient...what are you 12???

I said all along that Pandev is not out and out striker. ( Do you know that term means?).

How many times can you backflip?? You must be getting dizzy.
You said Pandev is most dangerous in a roll behind the 1 or 2 strikers.
Wouldnt that be a classic number 10?
Soon you will be telling us he is better than Pele and Maradonna.

Most teams play with 2 strikers. What does that mean? Both strikers or centre forwards standing next to each other. Also one is a deep striker and the other is a target man.

Thank you for this ingenious explanation. I take it you just figured out what I meant when I referred to Goran as a #2 striker. Bravo

Also your argument that Eto is better player than Pandev is flawed.

Yes, Pandev is a better player than Eto.
Your understanding of the game is obviously unrivaled(after about 50 'backflips') to come to such a conclusion.
cheers

[Warrior]

Of course. Everytime you have put your foot in your mouth you question my 'understanding of the game". How convenient...what are you 12???

How many times can you backflip?? You must be getting dizzy.
You said Pandev is most dangerous in a roll behind the 1 or 2 strikers.
Wouldnt that be a classic number 10?
Soon you will be telling us he is better than Pele and Maradonna.

Thank you for this ingenious explanation. I take it you just figured out what I meant when I referred to Goran as a #2 striker. Bravo
Yes, Pandev is a better player than Eto.
Your understanding of the game is obviously unrivaled(after about 50 'backflips') to come to such a conclusion.
cheers

Thats my point that you dont really know what you arguing about. I will do some simple analogy of your argument so you can understand it better!!

Your point was that Eto is better than Pandev. Is this correct???

My point is that Pandev and Eto are different players and should not be compared. Eto is an out and out striker (in the old days he would have been given No.9 to wear). Pandev would never be given that number because he has lot more to offer than just hanging around the box and finishing off attacks. Number 10 would be the right number!! So you are telling me that Platini, Matthaeus, Gullit were centre forwards and were valued by the amount of goals they scored?? Are you serious?? Do you remember the case you were making of the goals scored by Eto and Pandev for their respective previous clubs to justify that Eto is a better player. How absurd was that??? You can fool little kids with that.
These are the names of some players that made number 10 famous in the 80' and 90's. Its like saying Van Basten and Gullit can not play in the same team or who is better? Another anology is Voeller and Matthaeus?? So now do you start understanding that there is no bases to compare Pandev and Eto. They will be at their best when they play together!!! Two totally different players but very good in their roles!!

Pandev can play number two striker or he can play an anchor in a diamond forward set up as Mourinho had him against Calgary?? This is where is most dangerous because he has lot more time on the ball and can serve it up for the strikers.

ALso how stupid was your statement that because Pandev was bought for nothing he will be sitting on the bench with limited minutes of playing time. Yet you claim you have played the game....Silly Greek analogy!!!Just twisted the way it suits you and start digging some information on the net that will favour your argument.

I am more annoyed about your biased view and not the lack of knowledge of the game.

[Spartan]

Eto is better than Pandev. Is this correct??

That was not my initial point, but yes, Eto is more valuable, and far ahead of Pandev in terms of quality.

My point is that Pandev and Eto are different players and should not be compared.

They are far more similar than you are making them out to be.
And of course they cant be compared...Eto is World class.

So you are telling me that Platini, Matthaeus, Gullit were centre forwards and were valued by the amount of goals they scored??

Show me where I said that.

Do you remember the case you were making of the goals scored by Eto and Pandev for their respective previous clubs to justify that Eto is a better player. How absurd was that???

Yeah, comparing 2 strikers goal tallys is a dumb way to compare them. What was i thinking.
Bratot asked for their stats, so i found them and posted them.

Pandev can play number two striker or he can play an anchor in a diamond forward set up as Mourinho had him against Calgary?? This is where is most dangerous because he has lot more time on the ball and can serve it up for the strikers.

So let me get this straight, Pandev is a better attacking mid, than striker?

ALso how stupid was your statement that because Pandev was bought for nothing he will be sitting on the bench with limited minutes of playing time.

Not nearly as stupid as you implying that Pandev 'cannot be compared to eto' to avoid admitting you have filled this thread with malakies from your first post up til now.

Yet you claim you have played the game....Silly Greek analogy!!!Just twisted the way it suits you and start digging some information on the net that will favour your argument.

Yes, Fifa.com is full of propoganda and bullshit to fuel my 'silly greek analogy'.
What does me being Greek have anything to do with Eto being better than Pandev. Grow up.

I am more annoyed about your biased view and not the lack of knowledge of the game.

Bravo!!!
You have said the same thing 25 times now!
You have mastered the art of repeating mr. Parrot.
Good job.
Now why dont you move onto something a little more advanced.

[Warrior]

That was not my initial point, but yes, Eto is more valuable, and far ahead of Pandev in terms of quality.

They are far more similar than you are making them out to be.
And of course they cant be compared...Eto is World class.

Show me where I said that.

Yeah, comparing 2 strikers goal tallys is a dumb way to compare them. What was i thinking.
Bratot asked for their stats, so i found them and posted them.

So let me get this straight, Pandev is a better attacking mid, than striker?

Not nearly as stupid as you implying that Pandev 'cannot be compared to eto' to avoid admitting you have filled this thread with malakies from your first post up til now.

Yes, Fifa.com is full of propoganda and bullshit to fuel my 'silly greek analogy'.
What does me being Greek have anything to do with Eto being better than Pandev. Grow up.

Bravo!!!
You have said the same thing 25 times now!
You have mastered the art of repeating mr. Parrot.
Good job.
Now why dont you move onto something a little more advanced.

I cant believe I am reasoning with you!!!