Jovan Vraniskovski - The Traitor

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  • Bill77
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2009
    • 4545

    Something stinks about this.

    Why would he enter Macedonia when he is wanted?

    He does not look stupid to me. Therefor, its some sort of a plan. To cause waves. But who is really behind this plan?

    It just doesn't add up.
    http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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    • Bill77
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2009
      • 4545

      Jovan Vraniskovski = Jail

      Ljube Boskovski = Jail

      All we need is Ljupco Georgievski and Branko Crvenkovski in Jail, then we have a quartet behind bars where they can sing,

      "more shto si bevme golemoto drushtvo.......golemoto drushtvo, site predavnici"
      http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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      • Risto the Great
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 15658

        Ahhh, let them all out.
        Put the Albanian terrorists in.
        What a mental country.
        Risto the Great
        MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
        "Holding my breath for the revolution."

        Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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        • Bill77
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 4545

          Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
          Ahhh, let them all out.
          Put the Albanian terrorists in.
          What a mental country.
          I don't think we have Jails big enough. A za grobishta......ima mesto kolku shto sakash.
          http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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          • makedonche
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2008
            • 3242

            Originally posted by Bill77 View Post
            I don't think we have Jails big enough. A za grobishta......ima mesto kolku shto sakash.
            Bill77
            Hahahahahahahahah!!!!!!!!
            Smeshno ama vistinsko!
            On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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            • makedonche
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2008
              • 3242

              Originally posted by Bill77 View Post
              Something stinks about this.

              Why would he enter Macedonia when he is wanted?

              He does not look stupid to me. Therefor, its some sort of a plan. To cause waves. But who is really behind this plan?

              It just doesn't add up.
              Bill77
              Good point! as always here at the MTO we will find the truth sooner or later!
              On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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              • Soldier of Macedon
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 13670

                The Serbian Orthodox Church, Serbia's state leaders and several non-governmental organisations have condemned the sentencing.
                If it bothers the SOC that much then they should take him and keep this criminal within their own borders.
                In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                • mango
                  Member
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 142

                  Vraniskovski and SCOBA

                  I suggest a letter writing campaign to tell them what we think of Vraniskovski, the Greek invented acronym and the mixing of religion with politics.

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                  • Niko777
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2010
                    • 1895

                    Jovan is now a "Martyr" for the Orthodox world...

                    Code:
                    http://www.spc.rs/eng/dean_mr_michael_tritos_martyrdom_archbishop_jovan_ohrid

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                    • Big Bad Sven
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 1528

                      Originally posted by Niko777 View Post
                      Jovan is now a "Martyr" for the Orthodox world...

                      Code:
                      http://www.spc.rs/eng/dean_mr_michael_tritos_martyrdom_archbishop_jovan_ohrid
                      Niko will we ever see the Orthodox Brotha's accept the MOC in their little gang or will the MOC forever be the leper of the orthodox "family"? Dont you think it is quite a sad state of affairs that all of the other orthodox brotha's stay quite on the issue, and dont want to help the MOC?

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                      • Zarni
                        Banned
                        • May 2011
                        • 672

                        The MOC needs recognition by noboody niether should we care what the others feel
                        if only the Macedonians had a hint of pride

                        Vraniskovski wants to startup a rival Church in the Republic not under the Jurisdiction of the MOC that is cleary a vilation and all the support the Greeks and Bulgars fan out to him have everything to do with supporting the distablising of our Country

                        They can all go to hell, Vraniskovski should be beaten and thrown in hospital so he cant move then stripped of his passport and right to travel Amnesty International are then welcome to open thier mouths

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                        • Risto the Great
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 15658

                          Originally posted by Zarni View Post
                          The MOC needs recognition by noboody niether should we care what the others feel
                          if only the Macedonians had a hint of pride
                          It isn't even the MOC any more.
                          Shame would be the first emotion as compared to pride in this instance.
                          Risto the Great
                          MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                          "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                          Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                          • DedoAleko
                            Member
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 969

                            Вранишковски осуден на 2 години и 6 месеци

                            Судот во Велес утрово го осуди на 2 години и 6 месеци затворска казна екс владиката Јован Вранишковски за злоупотреба на 250 илјади евра додека управуваше со брегалничакта епархија на МПЦ.


                            Јавниот обвинител побара до правосилноста на пресудата Вранишковски да остане во притвор.

                            Адвокатот на Јован најави жалба на пресудата од велешкиот суд.

                            izvor: http://sitel.com.mk/dnevnik/makedoni...ini-i-6-meseci

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                            • lavce pelagonski
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 1993

                              That is a low sentence they should have locked him up for 10
                              Стравот на Атина од овој Македонец одел до таму што го нарекле „Страшниот Чакаларов“ „гркоубиец“ и „крвожеден комитаџија“.

                              „Ако знам дека тука тече една капка грчка крв, јас сега би ја отсекол целата рака и би ја фрлил в море.“ Васил Чакаларов

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                              • lavce pelagonski
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2009
                                • 1993

                                BREAKING NEWS: Macedonia Police Detain 17 Monks, Nuns, Believers
                                Tuesday, May 22, 2012 (3:37 pm)


                                By BosNewsLife News Center in Budapest with reporting by BosNewsLife's Stefan J. Bos

                                Dark clouds hanging over Ohrid Archbishopric churches...


                                SKOPJE/BELGRADE/BUDAPEST (BosNewsLife)-- Macedonian security forces have detained 17 monks, nuns and other believers on tax evasion charges as part of a fresh crackdown on the Serbian Orthodox Church in Macedonia, representatives and investigators told BosNewsLife Tuesday, May 22.

                                They were captured after police entered several monasteries and homes of church members, who fall under the responsibility of the Serbian Orthodox Church's "Ohrid Archbishopric" in Macedonia, said Centar 9, or 'Center 9' in English, a major Balkan religious rights watchdog.

                                "Prosecution of monks, nuns and believers of the Serbian Orthodox Church in Macedonia continues," Center 9 General Secretary Drasko Djenovic told BosNewsLife. "[It is] the situation in that ex-Yugoslav state," he said.

                                The raid reportedly began early Monday, May 21, when police in the eastern Macedonian town of Stip "was looking to arrest Bishop Marko of Bregalnica" area but he was not present as he attended the spring session of the Serbian Orthodox Church Synod in Belgrade, Serbia, according to investigators. However a nun, identified as Pelagija, was said to have been detained in that raid.

                                Elsewhere, in Macedonia's capital Skopje, police entered a monastery of the Assumption of the Holy Mother of God looking for Bishop David of the ancient town of Stobi, Center 9 added.

                                PRIORESS DETAINED

                                He was not found, but Prioress Kirina was taken into custody, BosNewsLife learned. While she was trying to report of what was going on, her mobile phone was allegedly taken away. "Police performed a search and arrest while video recording all," Center 9 claimed.

                                In a separate statement attributed to Bishop David and obtained by BosNewsLife, the church leader explained that "According to our understanding, 17 nuns and monks are arrested today [Monday]."

                                "Considering that the Macedonian police was trying to arrest me this morning, I expect to be arrested as soon as I cross the border line and enter Macedonia,“ he stressed, while returning from the synod meeting in Belgrade.

                                "Bishop Marko stayed at the synod meeting, since someone needs to inform the public of the events in Macedonia, as our Archbishop Jovan is already in prison," Bishop David added. "Such persecution and repression, in a desire to annihilate the whole Church, is not remembered in a modern and democratic Europe.“

                                Also, in the country's southwestern city of Bitola, police entered the monastery of St. John Chrysostom during the liturgy, in an attempt to "arrest the Mother superior Olimpijada" Center 9 told BosNewsLife.

                                MORE DETENTIONS

                                "When Center 9 called a mobile phone of Mother Olimpijada, another nun responded confirming that Mother Olimpijada is in a ‘safe place and not arrested’. However, one nun was taken to police custody."

                                In a statement she was quoted as saying: “This morning, during the service, police entered the monastery with arrest warrants and did a thorough search. No one is injured, but everything is upside down."

                                In the southern Macedonian city of Prilep police entered a monastery of the Assumption of the Holy Mother and arrested [monk] Mojsej, Center 9 reported.

                                Police reportedly said the raids were part of an investigation into "tax evasion fraud". But rights investigators have linked these and other raids to the government's refusal to register the Serbian Orthodox Church in Macedonian.

                                Only the Macedonian Orthodox Church has been recognized as the Balkan nation's main religion.

                                BLACK LIST

                                An Interior Ministry blacklist issued in recent years reportedly lists over 20 Serbian Orthodox bishops banned from entering Macedonia.

                                The Serbian Orthodox Church Synod in Belgrade earlier condemned as “political and not judicial” the sentence of two and half years to Archbishop Jovan, who is behind bars in Macedonia's Idrizovo prison.

                                Several other court cases are pending against Jovan and at least 15 other persons, trial observers said. Family members of Archbishop Jovan were among those detained in the latest raids, in addition to the nuns and monks, Center 9 said, adding that they were all expected to be brought before an investigative judge.

                                Macedonian police was to give more details later Tuesday, May 22.

                                It was not immediately clear how the European Union would react to the latest developments. Macedonia is seeking membership of the EU and the NATO military alliance, efforts so far blocked by Greece amid a dispute over the country's name.

                                The tensions over religious and national identities in the region are a left-over of the Balkan wars of the 1990s, according to Western obervers and rights activists.
                                Стравот на Атина од овој Македонец одел до таму што го нарекле „Страшниот Чакаларов“ „гркоубиец“ и „крвожеден комитаџија“.

                                „Ако знам дека тука тече една капка грчка крв, јас сега би ја отсекол целата рака и би ја фрлил в море.“ Васил Чакаларов

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