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  • Risto the Great
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 15658

    Jovan Vraniskovski - The Traitor



    A court rejected the request of the Orthodox Archbishopric led by Jovan Vraniskoski’s to approve registration under the name Greek-Orthodox Archbishopric of the Pekj Patriarchate.
    In the explanation, the court said it rejected registration because the title contained a term that is incorporated in the name of the Macedonian Orthodox Church and also contains terms similar to the ones designating already existing churches or geographical locations of other countries, which is forbidden by the law, A1 TV Station reported.
    Vraniskoski’s church has been operating in Macedonia for five years with no registration. The main obstacle to legalizing the religious organization is its name.
    Wasn't he doing a Serbian Orthodox church last time around?
    How silly.
    Risto the Great
    MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
    "Holding my breath for the revolution."

    Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com
  • Soldier of Macedon
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 13670

    #2
    Greek-Orthodox Archbishopric of Pech Patriarchate? Lol, this joke keeps getting funnier.
    In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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    • Jankovska
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 1774

      #3
      i thought he was trying to register a Serbian church? have I got it wrong#?

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      • NikodimMKD
        Banned
        • Apr 2009
        • 187

        #4
        Is this 'priest' a paid agent of the 'greeks'?

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        • Soldier of Macedon
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 13670

          #5
          You should know how it works, give us a run down on how one becomes a traitor, paid or otherwise.
          In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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          • Risto the Great
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 15658

            #6
            Originally posted by NikodimMKD View Post
            Is this 'priest' a paid agent of the 'greeks'?
            You seem to be growing more courage every day Niko. When do you think you will be honest with us? You really are making all Greeks look like liars. We Macedonians do not want to believe this is true.
            Risto the Great
            MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
            "Holding my breath for the revolution."

            Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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            • Prolet
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2009
              • 5241

              #7
              Jovan Vraniskovski

              Vraniskovski has gone into hiding, how will the Serbian and Greek Bishops react to this??

              СО ОДЛУКА НА ВЕЛЕШКИОТ СУД


              Две и пол години затвор за Јован Вранишковски



              Расчинетиот владика за проневера на 325 илјади евра црковни пари, малверзации кои ги сторил додека бил на чело на Повардарската, Брегалничката и Пелагониската епархија треба на МПЦ да и врати околу 250 илјади евра


              Две и пол години затвор вчера му изрече Велешкиот суд на расчинетиот владика Јован Вранишковски. Тој вчера не се појави во судницата да ја слушне пресудата ниту пак во судот дојде неговиот бранител. Судијата Тања Милевска го огласи за виновен Вранишковски за сторено кривично дело затајување на 325 илјади евра. Нему со одлука на судот му е укината мерката притвор која му беше изречена поради негово отсуство. Вранишковски по трет пат одговара за проневерата, односно финансиските малверзации во трите епархии - Брегалничката, Пелагониската и Повардарската. Во два наврата судијата Валентин Зафиров го ослободи расчинетиот владика оти делото за кое се товарел не било дело според Кривичниот законик. Но по жалбите на обвинителството Апелацискиот суд во Скопје два пати го враќаше предметот на повторно одлучување кај првостепениот суд. Судот при објавата образложи дека Вранишковски покрај затворската казна треба да врати околу 250 илјади евра, пари на МПЦ, на име на отштетното побарување за кои судот од вкупната сума утврди проневера, а незадоволните странки ги упати на граѓанска парница. Судот го задолжи покрај ова Вранишковски и на сума од 830 илјади денари кои му ги должел на Фондот за пензиско и инвалидско осигурување.

              Пресудата во велешкиот суд единствено ја слушна претставникот на МПЦ, Димитар Белчовски.
              Вранишковски се товареше дека ненеменски ги потрошил црковните пари без одлуки на епархиските одбори, а од повардарската епархија во времето кога бил протеран одзел џип и автомобил. Вранишковски за случајот се бранеше дека трошењето пари не било работа на обвинителството и судот напаѓајќи ја Црквата дека не води книговодство. Инаку Вранишковски беше осуден и одлежа затворска казна од година и пол која му ја изрече битолскиот суд заради поттикнување на национална, верска и расна омраза, раздор и нетрпеливост.

              МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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              • Jankovska
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 1774

                #8
                Good even tho it's not enough, should be longer

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                • Soldier of Macedon
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 13670

                  #9
                  So he is getting 2 and half years prison time for inappropriate spending of church funds in excess of 320K, what about Petar? What was the exact nature of their relationship by the time? Prolet, you would know?
                  In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                  • Big Bad Sven
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 1528

                    #10
                    return of Archbishop Jovan to Republic of Macedonia

                    Communique of the Ohrid Archbishopric on return of Archbishop Jovan to Republic of Macedonia

                    His Beatitude Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje kyr kyr Jovan, since the measure of his detention was abolished, after almost two years of absence, on January 25, in the late evening hours he returned to his homeland. Archbishop Jovan requested the abolition of detention during the judicial process against him, but since it was not allowed, His Beatitude has been forced for almost two years to live outside R. Macedonia.

                    Since the detention was eliminated, Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje kyr kyr Jovan returned to the believers of the Archbishopric of Ohrid, who exceedingly overjoyed meeting with their Archbishop.

                    In the meantime, many relevant factors, such as the representatives of the Embassy of the United States in R. Macedonia, Embassy of the European Union in R. Macedonia, Freedom House, clearly suggested that in R. Macedonia there was a lack of the application of the laws that guaranteed equal religious freedom for all citizens, highlighting the example of the judicial persecution of Archbishop Jovan.

                    However, although the Basic court in Veles, by bringing several decisions, found there were no evidence for the continuation of the judicial process against Archbishop Jovan and brought two acquittals for Archbishop Jovan, the Court of Appeal had constantly returned the case to rehearing, all the way to making the final verdict that would satisfy schismatics from the MOC.

                    The case is now in a period of appeal so that, pending the decision by the Court of Appeal, His Beatitude Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje kyr kyr Jovan is a free citizen.

                    Source: the Orthodox Archbishopric of Ohrid





                    Bet you that in a few months he will cause another scandal or say something controversial.

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                    • Soldier of Macedon
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 13670

                      #11
                      His Beatitude Archbishop of Ohrid and Metropolitan of Skopje kyr kyr Jovan
                      His what? From where?

                      How would the SOC feel if Macedonians began to claim Pec, Nish and Belgrade in their titles?

                      These criminals within the SOC who unfortunately seem to be leading it, better stop their pathetic actions soon.
                      In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                      • Risto the Great
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 15658

                        #12
                        What the?

                        Is "kyr kyr" written in Cyrillic?
                        Risto the Great
                        MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                        "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                        Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                        • Soldier of Macedon
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 13670

                          #13
                          The SOC complains like a schoolgirl when the MOC does not appease them and their little puppet, yet they won't do a thing to improve relations between ourselves. Jovan should stay in Serbia, it's safer for him to be with his own deluded sorts.

                          Or, let him come to Australia so he can see what sort of 'support' he will gain here.
                          In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                          • Prolet
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 5241

                            #14
                            SOM, He is not the only bad apple coming out of MPC, he is not he lone ranger thats for sure somebody supported him.

                            There where reports that he wanted to come to Australia, he is a black belt in Karate however he will have to be using his skills if he comes here.
                            МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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                            • osiris
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 1969

                              #15
                              prolet during the boxer rebellion in china, the boxers so called by the western press were in fact all karate experts who believed their powers would make them immune from modern firearms, unforutnately for them a warlord lined up a few hundred of them and shot them.

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