Macedonia Names Highway “Alexander of Macedon”

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  • Dimko-piperkata
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    • Sep 2008
    • 1876

    Macedonia Names Highway “Alexander of Macedon”

    Skopje | 06 January 2009 |

    Macedonia's government has renamed a main highway after the ancient conqueror Alexander the Great, whose ethnic origin is one part of the thorny 17-year dispute between Macedonia and its southern neighbour Greece over Macedonia's name.

    Government spokesman Shefik Duraku told local Alfa TV that "Alexander of Macedon" will be the new name of the country’s main highway that runs from Serbia to the north to the Greek border to the south as part of the pan-European Corridor 10.

    Duraku added that the main soccer stadium in Skopje would be renamed to Arena Philip the Second, after Alexander's father, and the same name was chosen for the planned cargo airport near the central Macedonian town of Stip.

    Local media have speculated that such moves, guaranteed to provoke vehement protests from the Greeks, are part of the government’s “plan B” after Athens blocked Macedonia's membership to NATO last April, and indicated it would veto the country's European Union entry as well.

    Greece says Alexander was a Greek hero and the name Macedonia implicates territorial claims on its own northern province of the same name. A move last year to rename the Skopje airport to Alexander the Great raised a storm of protest in Athens.

    The dispute dates from the early 1990s, after Macedonia broke away from socialist Yugoslavia. Greece blockaded the new state, forcing Macedonia to change its flag and its constitution in order to end the embargo and eventually sign an interim U.N. accord.

    In November, Macedonia announced it is taking Greece to the International Court of Justice in The Hague, arguing that Athens broke that 1995 accord when it put the breaks on its NATO invitation.



    all pure macedonians love this descision
    1) Macedonians belong to the "older" Mediterranean substratum...
    2) Macedonians are not related with geographically close Greeks, who do not belong to the "older" Mediterranenan substratum...
  • Demos
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    • Dec 2008
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    #2
    Originally posted by Dimko-piperkata View Post
    http://www.balkaninsight.com/en/main/news/15863/


    all pure macedonians love this descision

    Excellent move. Let's not worry about Albanian irredentism in Macedonia. Let's not worry about 30% unemployment rates. Let's name a highway so we feel better about ourselves for 60 seconds.

    It's obvious that logic or priorities are short on the list of Gruevski. Aside from this you are beginning to look ridiculous to outsiders with the renaming of almost any public building or structure as "Alexander" and "Phillip".

    Of course, from a Greek point of view I advocate continuation of the same policies as it serves Hellenic interests perfectly.

    Once again...thank you Gruevski. God could have not sent the Greeks a "better leader" for our neighboring country.

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    • Вардарец
      Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 122

      #3
      Oh Demos i must say i love you! Since when u started to care about the people here and the country i live in?

      That 30% uneployment rate here is bulcrap, just around 15% of the population is unemployed.

      When the naming is concerned, what do you say, you have even your dogs goats and cats named after ancient macedonian kings and generals, the whole lot of your country is rioting in the south and you are salting our minds here.
      For the glory of the Hellenes! Abandon orthodoxy and join your true religion! http://www.hellenicreligion.gr/... Zeus awaits you!

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      • Rogi
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        • Sep 2008
        • 2343

        #4
        Let's worry about the Albanian irredentism by...forgetting our own Macedonianism?

        In Tetovo the Albanians renamed the city square to "Ilirija square". This happened in the Republic of Macedonia, yet for some reason the Macedonians aren't supposed to be naming things IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY based on their own history?

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        • Demos
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          • Dec 2008
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          #5
          Originally posted by Вардарец View Post
          Oh Demos i must say i love you! Since when u started to care about the people here and the country i live in?

          That 30% uneployment rate here is bulcrap, just around 15% of the population is unemployed.

          When the naming is concerned, what do you say, you have even your dogs goats and cats named after ancient macedonian kings and generals, the whole lot of your country is rioting in the south and you are salting our minds here.

          The only joke of a politician is Gruevski and Co. He's what? In his early 40s? Your foreign minister is what? 30 years old?

          There is a reason why in every arena of contention against Greece you have not made 1 single headway. You are leaded by young, naive, amateurs.

          Heck, Risto could probably do a better job of governing Macedonia.

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          • Demos
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            • Dec 2008
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            #6
            Originally posted by Rogi View Post
            Let's worry about the Albanian irredentism by...forgetting our own Macedonianism?

            In Tetovo the Albanians renamed the city square to "Ilirija square". This happened in the Republic of Macedonia, yet for some reason the Macedonians aren't supposed to be naming things IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY based on their own history?
            And what did you do about it besides sit and watch them do it, in your "own" country with your hands in your pockets?

            Keep watching...

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            • Spartan
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              • Sep 2008
              • 1037

              #7
              Originally posted by Вардарец View Post
              Oh Demos i must say i love you! Since when u started to care about the people here and the country i live in?

              That 30% uneployment rate here is bulcrap, just around 15% of the population is unemployed.

              When the naming is concerned, what do you say, you have even your dogs goats and cats named after ancient macedonian kings and generals, the whole lot of your country is rioting in the south and you are salting our minds here.
              This is a little off topic, but I feel I must say it.
              That is a gross overstatement, to put it mildly my friend.
              The "whole south" is not rioting, Im not sure where you got that from.
              A couple of thousand deadbeat clowns throwing molotovs in a couple of rundown Athenian areas is nothing.
              These are routine occurences in certain low-income Athenian neighborhoods.

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              • TerraNova
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                • Nov 2008
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                #8
                I guess the next strategic move is to rename the railways Bucephalas.

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                • Bratot
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                  • Sep 2008
                  • 2855

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Demos View Post
                  The only joke of a politician is Gruevski and Co. He's what? In his early 40s? Your foreign minister is what? 30 years old?

                  There is a reason why in every arena of contention against Greece you have not made 1 single headway. You are leaded by young, naive, amateurs.
                  Heck, Risto could probably do a better job of governing Macedonia.

                  I couln't agree more on this.

                  We are young and naive.

                  But on other hand, you are the arrogant chauvinistic Greeks who can't do shit against us if there is no backing up by France and the rest EU pedophiles.


                  And why do you, the SUPERIOR RACE need a back up by anyone?

                  Heh, instead of helping your poor classe population, not mentioning that before Bulgarian and Romanian entering to EU you have been the poorest EU country with 24% poor population, your BRAVE and SUPER DUPER government spent 4+ Billions euros on buying weapons from France in order to gain their support in our issue.


                  Dibek.
                  The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot

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                  • Risto the Great
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 15658

                    #10
                    Great stuff, when the Serbs drive to Greece for their orgies they will be reminded of the Macedonians from go to woe! Perhaps they might feel guilty.

                    Demos, I am sure some idiots in Greece complained when the airport in Solun was renamed to MAKEDONIA. Macedonia has copped it from the Serbs for the last 50 odd years. It has been its own country for 17 years. I bet 17 years after 1829 that most of Greece was still speaking Albanian. Give it time mate.
                    Risto the Great
                    MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                    "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                    Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                    • Bratot
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 2855

                      #11
                      Originally posted by TerraNova View Post
                      I guess the next strategic move is to rename the railways Bucephalas.

                      And all of the
                      public toilets will be named after Bakoyannis and Karamanlis.

                      I would almost forgot to show how this "ancient" advertising works for the Greeks:




                      Not mentionig the toilet paper with the symbol of Vergina.

                      That's perverted history admirers.

                      Last edited by Bratot; 01-06-2009, 07:02 PM.
                      The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot

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                      • Soldier of Macedon
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 13670

                        #12
                        Demos, I am sure some idiots in Greece complained when the airport in Solun was renamed to MAKEDONIA. Macedonia has copped it from the Serbs for the last 50 odd years. It has been its own country for 17 years. I bet 17 years after 1829 that most of Greece was still speaking Albanian. Give it time mate.
                        How true that is. A state that has almost 200 years of existence is struggling and whining like a schoolgirl against the Macedonian state that has had freedom for only 17 years. Truly, the leader in the region...
                        In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                        • Venom
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                          • Sep 2008
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Demos View Post
                          The only joke of a politician is Gruevski and Co. He's what? In his early 40s? Your foreign minister is what? 30 years old?

                          There is a reason why in every arena of contention against Greece you have not made 1 single headway. You are leaded by young, naive, amateurs.

                          Heck, Risto could probably do a better job of governing Macedonia.
                          Gruevski is doing a pretty good job with the country. Economically Macedonia is faring better than it has in the last 17 years. As for the EU and NATO, well we've gotten closer to that than ever before too. Things take time you see.

                          What do you think Gruevski has done wrong? Oh yeah, not bend over to the likes of you morons. Hmmm. That's logical now, isn't it?
                          S m r t - i l i - S l o b o d a

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                          • Demos
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                            • Dec 2008
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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Venom View Post
                            Gruevski is doing a pretty good job with the country. Economically Macedonia is faring better than it has in the last 17 years. As for the EU and NATO, well we've gotten closer to that than ever before too. Things take time you see.

                            What do you think Gruevski has done wrong? Oh yeah, not bend over to the likes of you morons. Hmmm. That's logical now, isn't it?
                            The truth is gentleman that Gruevski and his cohorts are too young, too inexperienced, naive, and lack maturity to run a country.

                            Who the hell appoints a 30 year old guy to run as foreign minister? Perhaps economically you might be doing better, although I would still debate that, but on the diplomatic front you don't have anything to show vis a vis your debate with Greece. The average age of the Gruevski "government" is either in the upper 20s or lower 30s I remember watching a Greek news program in which they interviewed your foreign minister, where he himself says: "Let's share the history of Macedonia".

                            The "letter diplomacy" amounted to nothing. You were rebuffed at Bucharest despite having the Americans on your side and applying a lot of pressure on Greece behind the scenes. I won't even get into the defeatism and "compromise" you have displayed with the Albanians in your own country.

                            Aside from the nationalist rhetoric Gruevski as a Prime Minister has nothing to his name. Is the guy good for anything else besides laying reefs and giving speeches?

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                            • Risto the Great
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 15658

                              #15
                              So when Dora says thing like "we created democracy" to USA journalists ... ummm, that carries weight?

                              Macedonia's foreign Minister has not missed a beat. Age is irrelevant.
                              Risto the Great
                              MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                              "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                              Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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