МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.
I remember about 20 years ago a group of people in Melbourne tried setting up this foundation, it was touted around here in Newcastle by some SLAVIC Activists, but i do not remember the charter, but it was that bad that the community here DESTROYED it before it started.
Perhaps some members here can enlighten us.
We have many enemies externally but maybe more importantly as many enemies internally a1 being a prime example. Two other articles there suggest the new name is on and the likely result is going to be much like the Greek guy who is a German mep said a solution where neither side is going to be exactly happy.
Head of Macedonian diplomacy Antonio Milososki confirmed negotiator Matthew Nimetz in March, will call the new meeting negotiators Jolevski and Vassilakis.
This negotiating round, Nimetz will present a new modified proposal for resolving the dispute almost dvodeceniskiot name.
Diplomatic sources in Skopje, but he announced the meeting of the two negotiators revealed that mediator Nimetz will come up with proposals for resolving the dispute dvodeceniskiot. Only know that the new Nimetz proposal will be based on a proposal by October 2008 that envisioned a new name for international use is Republic of Northern Macedonia.
Mediator of the United Nations late last month of meetings in Skopje and Athens have heard the positions of both sides, which are regarded as red lines.
Greek, a name with geographic determinant for overall usage and the Macedonian position that the UN resolutions and the Interim Agreement talks are held only on behalf of state for international use.
Immediately afterwards, possibly new, the third meeting of prime ministers of both countries on the sidelines of the summit of the European Union in Brussels. Proposed a new meeting Macedonian Prime Minister Gruevski.
Greek Prime Minister said nothing against the meeting but that it must be well prepared. Meanwhile the name dispute with Macedonia will be one of the topics under that Papandreou will discuss with U.S. President Barack Obama tomorrow in Washington.
Resolution of the United Nations provides for discussions regarding the name of the state. For Macedonia it is the red line in the negotiations said today President George Ivanov, cutting the state plumbing svoevidniot peak for talks with mediator Matthew Nimetz in Skopje.
"For us red line is what is the resolution of the United Nations. You can not get out of what is already provided. There stands correct formulation should discuss the difference over the name. Nowhere does it mention any identity or language, "said President Ivanov.
State Ambassador Jolevski expected to learn the results of talks on Nimetz in Athens.
Many of the questions in the degree of confidentiality and would not now opened Ivanov said, adding that when that moment comes, the public will be presented all aspects of the problem of Greece with our constitutional name.
The Macedonian Foreign Ministry said the Nimitz was in constant contact with negotiators and Jolevski Vassilakis, reiterating that there is no sign yet of their joint meeting.
Official Athens believes that after several years of negotiations, the positions of both sides iskristalizira that solution is possible, provided it is not necessary political will.
Greece is the solution name with geographic determinant for overall usage. The United Nations mediator Matthew Nimetz in talks after meetings in Skopje and Athens that there are grounds for a decision, despite the obvious differences between the two sides.
Combining past information with these two articles and its starting to look like a mixed solution of the country is North Macedonia and the identity and language are Macedonian but at the same time the Greeks in Greek Macedonia also can call themselves Macedonian. The reasoning being we know there were these people called Macedonians but we also know most of you Greeks are immigrants from Egypt Syria and Lebanon ect who may have merged in and evolved into today’s modern Greeks and we also know the Slavs migrated to the area and probably merged with any original inhabitants to become the people who call themselves Macedonians today hence everybody can identify as Macedonians but the Republic of Macedonia cannot monopolise the name Macedonia thus the name change to North Macedonia. Has it made everyone unhappy yet.
The Greeks don’t want Republic of Macedonia to monopolise the name Macedonia hence the name change but by the same token the Greeks cannot monopolise the name then the part of Macedonia becomes South Macedonia. By doing this it avoids proving absolutely the ancient Macedonians were Greek or other and no one group can lay absolute claim to being exclusively the direct decedents and therefore inheritors of everything Macedonian.
Im not saying this is right im just saying look at the articles and what is this hidden information that will be told at the appropriate time.
Експерти: Не одат сабји и копја, со кларинет и хармоника
Experts: No go sabers and spears, with clarinet and accordion
Гоце Михајлоски Goce Mihajloski <--- he should change his name :]
same text, same story, this guys are 102,7 % greeks, logic = - infinity!
The ancient Macedonians, according to the experts play a new song in the fictional National rhythm with stolen parts of koreografiite komitskoto, rusaliskoto aramiskoto and dance.
for those of you who are not experts in Macedonian Folklor:
Komitsko, Rusalisko i Aramisko Oro, and few more Makedonski Ora, are traditionaly danced with Swords / Sabers...
So they publish this garbage with title "No go Sabers and Macedonian Folklor"
and Macedonian Folklor is FULL of such elements... (not only the dances, we have the Babari and other stuff, not the place to write about it)
Honestly, I smell a name change on the way with Northern Macedonia being hailed as a win by the weakened Greek State. And Macedonia claiming it as a compromise that will safeguard their future. Utter bullshit.
Risto the Great MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA "Holding my breath for the revolution."
Honestly, I smell a name change on the way with Northern Macedonia being hailed as a win by the weakened Greek State. And Macedonia claiming it as a compromise that will safeguard their future. Utter bullshit.
Agreed. Macedonia should mobilize to take the UN to court. Not make concessions because they are corruptible.
The people finally had it with this network, they are more harm then good thats for sure.
Thursday, 29 April 2010
A1 TV, the well established Athens mouth piece in Macedonia is getting threats from ordinary citizens due to their constant negative and anti Macedonian campaign on the name issue.
In their nightly news, A1 claims 'internet terrorists' have made threats to the station and specific 'journalists'.
Journalists from other Macedonian mediums are not surprised by this. "A1 gets what they give, and pretty much everything that comes out of there is hate", says a journalists from Kanal 5 who wished to remain anonymous.
A1 claims the threats have reached the highest levels after the so called 'name simulation' organized by A1 that featured former "Macedonian" politicians closely regarded as the co-creators of the current UN reference.
Most Macedonians viewed the 'name simulation' as just another sellout by an out of control TV station.
МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.
NE!!! Za promena na imeto Ne dozvoluvajte velija ramkovski preku svoite mediumi ( a1, a2, vreme, spic, sega, koha, koha e re) da vi simulira pregovori i da vi iznaogja brzi resenija. Ne dozvoluvajte albanec da vi kazuva kolkavi makedonci treba da bidete. Znam deka site kupuvate "vreme" poradi nagradnata igra ama toa ne e pricina i da go proci...tate. Moj sovet e Ako moras da go kupis Izgrebi i frli
МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.
I hope that this is the start of people taking more action in their country.
It's a sign of pride taking over apathy and fear
From the village of P’pezhani, Tashko Popov, Dimitar Popov-Skenderov and Todor Trpenov were beaten and sentenced to 12 years prison. Pavle Mevchev and Atanas Popov from Vrbeni and Boreshnica joined them in early 1927, they were soon after transferred to Kozhani and executed. As they were leaving Lerin they were heard to shout "With our death, Macedonia will not be lost. Our blood will run, but other Macedonians will rise from it"
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