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  • ZAS
    Member
    • May 2009
    • 178

    #16
    Originally posted by Big Bad Sven View Post
    more self hating and slave mentality rubbish coming from the republic, what else is new?
    You want SLAV rubbish?
    The Illinden Foundation.

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    • Prolet
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2009
      • 5241

      #17
      ZAS, What ilinden foundation?
      МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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      • ZAS
        Member
        • May 2009
        • 178

        #18
        Originally posted by Prolet View Post
        ZAS, What ilinden foundation?
        I remember about 20 years ago a group of people in Melbourne tried setting up this foundation, it was touted around here in Newcastle by some SLAVIC Activists, but i do not remember the charter, but it was that bad that the community here DESTROYED it before it started.
        Perhaps some members here can enlighten us.

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        • fyrOM
          Banned
          • Feb 2010
          • 2180

          #19
          We have many enemies externally but maybe more importantly as many enemies internally a1 being a prime example. Two other articles there suggest the new name is on and the likely result is going to be much like the Greek guy who is a German mep said a solution where neither side is going to be exactly happy.

          Consider the first article


          Meeting on behalf of the end of the month



          08.03.2010 19:01

          Head of Macedonian diplomacy Antonio Milososki confirmed negotiator Matthew Nimetz in March, will call the new meeting negotiators Jolevski and Vassilakis.

          This negotiating round, Nimetz will present a new modified proposal for resolving the dispute almost dvodeceniskiot name.

          Diplomatic sources in Skopje, but he announced the meeting of the two negotiators revealed that mediator Nimetz will come up with proposals for resolving the dispute dvodeceniskiot. Only know that the new Nimetz proposal will be based on a proposal by October 2008 that envisioned a new name for international use is Republic of Northern Macedonia.

          Mediator of the United Nations late last month of meetings in Skopje and Athens have heard the positions of both sides, which are regarded as red lines.

          Greek, a name with geographic determinant for overall usage and the Macedonian position that the UN resolutions and the Interim Agreement talks are held only on behalf of state for international use.

          Immediately afterwards, possibly new, the third meeting of prime ministers of both countries on the sidelines of the summit of the European Union in Brussels. Proposed a new meeting Macedonian Prime Minister Gruevski.

          Greek Prime Minister said nothing against the meeting but that it must be well prepared. Meanwhile the name dispute with Macedonia will be one of the topics under that Papandreou will discuss with U.S. President Barack Obama tomorrow in Washington.

          now consider

          Ivanov: UN Resolution is a Macedonian Red Line



          04.03.2010 19:17

          Resolution of the United Nations provides for discussions regarding the name of the state. For Macedonia it is the red line in the negotiations said today President George Ivanov, cutting the state plumbing svoevidniot peak for talks with mediator Matthew Nimetz in Skopje.

          "For us red line is what is the resolution of the United Nations. You can not get out of what is already provided. There stands correct formulation should discuss the difference over the name. Nowhere does it mention any identity or language, "said President Ivanov.

          State Ambassador Jolevski expected to learn the results of talks on Nimetz in Athens.

          Many of the questions in the degree of confidentiality and would not now opened Ivanov said, adding that when that moment comes, the public will be presented all aspects of the problem of Greece with our constitutional name.

          The Macedonian Foreign Ministry said the Nimitz was in constant contact with negotiators and Jolevski Vassilakis, reiterating that there is no sign yet of their joint meeting.

          Official Athens believes that after several years of negotiations, the positions of both sides iskristalizira that solution is possible, provided it is not necessary political will.

          Greece is the solution name with geographic determinant for overall usage. The United Nations mediator Matthew Nimetz in talks after meetings in Skopje and Athens that there are grounds for a decision, despite the obvious differences between the two sides.

          Combining past information with these two articles and its starting to look like a mixed solution of the country is North Macedonia and the identity and language are Macedonian but at the same time the Greeks in Greek Macedonia also can call themselves Macedonian. The reasoning being we know there were these people called Macedonians but we also know most of you Greeks are immigrants from Egypt Syria and Lebanon ect who may have merged in and evolved into today’s modern Greeks and we also know the Slavs migrated to the area and probably merged with any original inhabitants to become the people who call themselves Macedonians today hence everybody can identify as Macedonians but the Republic of Macedonia cannot monopolise the name Macedonia thus the name change to North Macedonia. Has it made everyone unhappy yet.

          The Greeks don’t want Republic of Macedonia to monopolise the name Macedonia hence the name change but by the same token the Greeks cannot monopolise the name then the part of Macedonia becomes South Macedonia. By doing this it avoids proving absolutely the ancient Macedonians were Greek or other and no one group can lay absolute claim to being exclusively the direct decedents and therefore inheritors of everything Macedonian.

          Im not saying this is right im just saying look at the articles and what is this hidden information that will be told at the appropriate time.

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          • fyrOM
            Banned
            • Feb 2010
            • 2180

            #20
            I have moved this post to the thread greek newspaper severno makedonski…. It seemed more appropriate.

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            • Serdarot
              Member
              • Feb 2010
              • 605

              #21
              the "eksperts" are here to confirm that this was shamefull...

              i am starting to ask myself, with WHAT ARE THIS PEOPLE FED?

              what are they eating and drinking, so become such BOTS.

              А1 Македонија е член на Групацијата А1 Телеком Австрија, водечки провајдер за комуникациски и дигитални решенија во Централна и Источна Европа.






              Експерти: Не одат сабји и копја, со кларинет и хармоника
              Experts: No go sabers and spears, with clarinet and accordion
              Гоце Михајлоски Goce Mihajloski <--- he should change his name :]

              same text, same story, this guys are 102,7 % greeks, logic = - infinity!
              The ancient Macedonians, according to the experts play a new song in the fictional National rhythm with stolen parts of koreografiite komitskoto, rusaliskoto aramiskoto and dance.
              for those of you who are not experts in Macedonian Folklor:

              Komitsko, Rusalisko i Aramisko Oro, and few more Makedonski Ora, are traditionaly danced with Swords / Sabers...

              So they publish this garbage with title "No go Sabers and Macedonian Folklor"

              and Macedonian Folklor is FULL of such elements... (not only the dances, we have the Babari and other stuff, not the place to write about it)
              Last edited by Serdarot; 03-10-2010, 03:28 PM.
              Bratot:
              Никој не е вечен, а каузава не е нова само е адаптирана на новите услови и ќе се пренесува и понатаму.

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              • Risto the Great
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 15658

                #22
                Honestly, I smell a name change on the way with Northern Macedonia being hailed as a win by the weakened Greek State. And Macedonia claiming it as a compromise that will safeguard their future. Utter bullshit.
                Risto the Great
                MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                • TrueMacedonian
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 3810

                  #23
                  Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                  Honestly, I smell a name change on the way with Northern Macedonia being hailed as a win by the weakened Greek State. And Macedonia claiming it as a compromise that will safeguard their future. Utter bullshit.
                  Agreed. Macedonia should mobilize to take the UN to court. Not make concessions because they are corruptible.
                  Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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                  • Prolet
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 5241

                    #24
                    A1 gets threats from ordinary Macedonians

                    The people finally had it with this network, they are more harm then good thats for sure.

                    Thursday, 29 April 2010

                    A1 TV, the well established Athens mouth piece in Macedonia is getting threats from ordinary citizens due to their constant negative and anti Macedonian campaign on the name issue.

                    In their nightly news, A1 claims 'internet terrorists' have made threats to the station and specific 'journalists'.

                    Journalists from other Macedonian mediums are not surprised by this. "A1 gets what they give, and pretty much everything that comes out of there is hate", says a journalists from Kanal 5 who wished to remain anonymous.

                    A1 claims the threats have reached the highest levels after the so called 'name simulation' organized by A1 that featured former "Macedonian" politicians closely regarded as the co-creators of the current UN reference.

                    Most Macedonians viewed the 'name simulation' as just another sellout by an out of control TV station.

                    МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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                    • Prolet
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 5241

                      #25
                      Could it be that people are starting to wake up?

                      NE!!! Za promena na imeto Ne dozvoluvajte velija ramkovski preku svoite mediumi ( a1, a2, vreme, spic, sega, koha, koha e re) da vi simulira pregovori i da vi iznaogja brzi resenija. Ne dozvoluvajte albanec da vi kazuva kolkavi makedonci treba da bidete. Znam deka site kupuvate "vreme" poradi nagradnata igra ama toa ne e pricina i da go proci...tate. Moj sovet e Ako moras da go kupis Izgrebi i frli
                      МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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                      • TrueMacedonian
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2009
                        • 3810

                        #26
                        Prolet I think the people have been awake. It's only now that they are finally doing something about it.
                        Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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                        • julie
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2009
                          • 3869

                          #27
                          am pleased the air of apathy in RoM is abating.
                          "The moral revolution - the revolution of the mind, heart and soul of an enslaved people, is our greatest task."__________________Gotse Delchev

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                          • TrueMacedonian
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 3810

                            #28
                            Originally posted by julie View Post
                            am pleased the air of apathy in RoM is abating.
                            I hope that this is the start of people taking more action in their country.
                            Slayer Of The Modern "greek" Myth!!!

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                            • Jankovska
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 1774

                              #29
                              What;s wrong with A1, I read it every day.

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                              • Mikail
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2008
                                • 1338

                                #30
                                Originally posted by julie View Post
                                am pleased the air of apathy in RoM is abating.
                                Originally posted by TrueMacedonian View Post
                                I hope that this is the start of people taking more action in their country.
                                It's a sign of pride taking over apathy and fear
                                From the village of P’pezhani, Tashko Popov, Dimitar Popov-Skenderov and Todor Trpenov were beaten and sentenced to 12 years prison. Pavle Mevchev and Atanas Popov from Vrbeni and Boreshnica joined them in early 1927, they were soon after transferred to Kozhani and executed. As they were leaving Lerin they were heard to shout "With our death, Macedonia will not be lost. Our blood will run, but other Macedonians will rise from it"

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