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  • Risto the Great
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 15658

    Originally posted by Solun View Post
    Haha you are all sitting back in the diaspora revolted as to what is going on.

    And yet the Local Mayor explains that it is not appropriate for the Kutlesh Sun to be trampled upon which is the only reason for its removal.

    Shame on you 'ne kulturni' members of the diaspora
    The mayor is a genius. I love it. What did he say when the Greeks changed the country's name? I don't know, how about, "LoL, the Greeks don't know we all wear the sonce on our underpants. We win again."

    What a pathetic nation that is now only a notion.
    Risto the Great
    MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
    "Holding my breath for the revolution."

    Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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    • Gocka
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 2306

      This virus really sucks. It wont go away! The US is set for a 100,000 deaths before they even open up the economy again. I live int he most populous portion of the country and its been a ghost town for 2 months and still the amount of deaths and infections is staggering. I can't imagine the amount of deaths that would have been sustained had no stay at home orders been issued. I also can't imagine how many deaths are going to be sustained in a couple weeks when things open up again. I don't even want to start thinking about the next winter.

      Goes to show that "modern" society isn't so freaking modern after all. The fact that no one in the world was prepared for this and still do not know how to handle it is frankly pathetic. Its not we don't know that viruses exist. Even though China dragged their feet, the world still had warnings back to January, and no one decided to act until it was too late. Had countries stopped travel back in January, quarantined the few cases that would pop up, they could have kept their economies running at near 100% the whole time. But the greed and drill baby drill mentality made sure that everyone ignored it until they couldn't.

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      • Gocka
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 2306

        Looks like the USA is headed in the wrong direction again in terms of new infections and deaths. As I predicted the desire to gets things back to normal economically would take precedent and make things worse.

        New York and New Jersey (where I live) had the strictest and longest lock down measures and are actually seeing vast improvements from the peak. Most of the other states are seeing signs that numbers might be increasing again instead of falling.

        I was supposed to go to Macedonia in late July until late August, who knows what will happen now. Macedonia is also showing signs that things might be at a tipping point and could start to spread if care is not taken. The virus has shown that once it spreads to enough people in a population, it then explodes and spreads exponentially.

        Who still thinks its just like the flu.

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        • Phoenix
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 4671

          Originally posted by Gocka View Post
          Looks like the USA is headed in the wrong direction again in terms of new infections and deaths. As I predicted the desire to gets things back to normal economically would take precedent and make things worse.

          New York and New Jersey (where I live) had the strictest and longest lock down measures and are actually seeing vast improvements from the peak. Most of the other states are seeing signs that numbers might be increasing again instead of falling.

          I was supposed to go to Macedonia in late July until late August, who knows what will happen now. Macedonia is also showing signs that things might be at a tipping point and could start to spread if care is not taken. The virus has shown that once it spreads to enough people in a population, it then explodes and spreads exponentially.

          Who still thinks its just like the flu.
          I still reckon it's like the flu...

          Nothing has changed since day one - those at greatest risk are people with existing comorbidities that are often seen and associated with old age.

          The statistics are completely and woefully inaccurate - the number of total infections, the all important denominator number has probably been underestimated by as much as a factor of 20, some experts believe it (total number of infections) could be X40 higher.

          The total number of deaths is also debatable with many experts believing that the real number is actually significantly lower as deaths have been attributed to covid-19 on the basis that the patient had tested positive to covid-19 whilst disregarding the patients other health issues at time of death.

          A much higher infection rate Vs a lower total of covid-19 specific deaths = a significantly lower death rate.

          In Australia in 2017, something like 1200 individuals died from flu - current covid-19 deaths sit at around 102.

          Covid-19 is the biggest crock of shit in human history - politicians all over the world have decimated the global economic system by blindly following a one size fits all approach with draconian lockdown measures, whether it was New York city or a one horse village in some far flung corner of the world.

          Covid-19 is the pandemic of stupidity.

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          • Carlin
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 3332

            Outrage after reports that Albania will open its border for Macedonian citizens, but only to those who are ethnic Albanians

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            A report from Albania, that the country will open its border to all ethnic Albanians from the region, caused outrage in Macedonia. According to the report, Prime Minister Edi Rama announced that the country will open the borders for Albanians from Kosovo and Macedonia, in an attempt to save its tourism season. As announced by Albanian media outlets, the measure would exclude Macedonian citizens who are not ethnic Albanians.

            The Government of the Republic of Macedonia needs to issue a strong response to this 19th century madness, said VMRO-DPMNE member of Parliament Ilija Dimovski. “This is discrimination on ethnic grounds toward the citizens of the Republic of Macedonia. We have an obligation to make sure that other countries treat all Macedonian citizens equally”, Dimovski said.

            Albania was known to introduce such ethnically selective measures in the past. For a long time, an entrance fee was charged at its border but applied only to non-Albanians.

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            • Carlin
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 3332

              Originally posted by Gocka View Post
              Looks like the USA is headed in the wrong direction again in terms of new infections and deaths. As I predicted the desire to gets things back to normal economically would take precedent and make things worse.

              New York and New Jersey (where I live) had the strictest and longest lock down measures and are actually seeing vast improvements from the peak. Most of the other states are seeing signs that numbers might be increasing again instead of falling.

              I was supposed to go to Macedonia in late July until late August, who knows what will happen now. Macedonia is also showing signs that things might be at a tipping point and could start to spread if care is not taken. The virus has shown that once it spreads to enough people in a population, it then explodes and spreads exponentially.

              Who still thinks its just like the flu.
              - 100,000+ dead Americans due to covid-19
              - 40 million unemployed
              - Literal rioting in the streets

              The police station is officially lit. Minneapolis Police Third precinct fully on fire.
              Last edited by Carlin; 05-28-2020, 10:32 PM.

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              • Risto the Great
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 15658

                Originally posted by Carlin15 View Post
                Outrage after reports that Albania will open its border for Macedonian citizens, but only to those who are ethnic Albanians

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                A report from Albania, that the country will open its border to all ethnic Albanians from the region, caused outrage in Macedonia. According to the report, Prime Minister Edi Rama announced that the country will open the borders for Albanians from Kosovo and Macedonia, in an attempt to save its tourism season. As announced by Albanian media outlets, the measure would exclude Macedonian citizens who are not ethnic Albanians.

                The Government of the Republic of Macedonia needs to issue a strong response to this 19th century madness, said VMRO-DPMNE member of Parliament Ilija Dimovski. “This is discrimination on ethnic grounds toward the citizens of the Republic of Macedonia. We have an obligation to make sure that other countries treat all Macedonian citizens equally”, Dimovski said.

                Albania was known to introduce such ethnically selective measures in the past. For a long time, an entrance fee was charged at its border but applied only to non-Albanians.
                Macedonia simply needs to return the favour and say only ethnic Macedonians will be allowed to enter from Albania. I think it positively perfect.
                Risto the Great
                MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                • Gocka
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 2306

                  Originally posted by Carlin15 View Post
                  - 100,000+ dead Americans due to covid-19
                  - 40 million unemployed
                  - Literal rioting in the streets

                  The police station is officially lit. Minneapolis Police Third precinct fully on fire.
                  Many people want the government out of our lives util times likes this when it is obvious that you need a coordinated and well thought out response. A lot of people take for granted the importance of a professional and well functioning public administration. Its fun and games, laugh at the latest tweet, until your in the middle of a pandemic and your realize you need competent people at the wheel.

                  I don't think this is the end of it. There are so many shoe's still to drop. The long term impact on the economic is unclear. The long term impact of the stimulus spending on budgets. The long term impact on state budgets. The trajectory of the virus, the second wave in the fall.

                  These are all serious problems that will require serious competence to solve, and a good amount of bipartisanship.

                  Let see how great America really is, or is it going to be taken down by one orange buffoon and a virus.

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                  • Gocka
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 2306

                    Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                    Macedonia simply needs to return the favour and say only ethnic Macedonians will be allowed to enter from Albania. I think it positively perfect.
                    Pinch yourself.... you're dreaming.

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                    • Niko777
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2010
                      • 1895

                      Originally posted by Risto the Great View Post
                      Macedonia simply needs to return the favour and say only ethnic Macedonians will be allowed to enter from Albania. I think it positively perfect.
                      Not to worry, Macedonians will just sign a document at the border confirming that they have Albanian ancestry

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                      • Niko777
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2010
                        • 1895

                        In times of international crisis, North Macedonia has proven to be the most pathetic country in the region. Whereas Greece has basically eliminated the Covid-19 outbreak within its borders, and whereas Bulgaria and Serbia have been experiencing downward trends, in North Macedonia new cases have been rising since May and the country is currently going through another outbreak:



                        Greece:


                        Bulgaria:


                        Serbia:
                        Last edited by Niko777; 06-01-2020, 05:07 PM.

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                        • Gocka
                          Senior Member
                          • Dec 2012
                          • 2306

                          Originally posted by Niko777 View Post
                          In times of international crisis, North Macedonia has proven to be the most pathetic country in the region. Whereas Greece has basically eliminated the Covid-19 outbreak within its borders, and whereas Bulgaria and Serbia have been experiencing downward trends, in North Macedonia new cases have been rising since May and the country is currently going through another outbreak:



                          Greece:


                          Bulgaria:


                          Serbia:
                          I noticed the same that the cases in Macedonia had been gradually increasing and now it seems they are exploding. If they don't slow it down fast it could get very bad.

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                          • Carlin
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 3332

                            Inspectors see live music, dancing on tables, hugging in bars and restaurants

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                            • Phoenix
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2008
                              • 4671

                              Originally posted by Niko777 View Post
                              In times of international crisis, North Macedonia has proven to be the most pathetic country in the region. Whereas Greece has basically eliminated the Covid-19 outbreak within its borders, and whereas Bulgaria and Serbia have been experiencing downward trends, in North Macedonia new cases have been rising since May and the country is currently going through another outbreak:
                              It is ridiculous to talk about competence and transparency of any sort when it comes to the Balkans.

                              The greeks are probably bullshitting about their numbers to try and protect their tourist industry which is their only source for GDP.

                              The numbers for both infections and deaths can be easily manipulated and downplayed.

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                              • Amphipolis
                                Banned
                                • Aug 2014
                                • 1328

                                Yes, in Greece the number of cases means nothing (we don't have enough test kits). You should use number of deaths as reference.

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