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  • fyrOM
    Banned
    • Feb 2010
    • 2180

    Macedonian Election 2011

    The Diaspora only two percent turnout ELECTION

    MP by only 100 votes


    Diaspora to vote one day before the elections in Macedonia, and the only polling list will be determined by expatriates to register to vote in the Macedonian embassies and consulates

    The election of three deputies from expats would be virtually no requirement to not let the first ballot of the Diaspora to be unsuccessful. Elections in three constituencies outside the country will be valid if the polls turn out only two percent of voters who will apply that wish to participate in elections.
    So if, for example in the constituency which covers the continents of Europe and Africa are susceptible to vote five thousand isselenici, elections will be considered successful if only 100 voters vote. The candidate who wins most of these hundred votes will be elected member of Parliament.
    Vice President of the State Election Commission Subhi Jakupi explains that according to the adopted amendments to the Electoral Code, the total number of registered voters in a constituency will be determined depending on how many immigrants will apply for the vote, which will be organized one day before voting in Macedonia.
    "In this polling list have about 70 thousand voters with an asterisk. These are voters who know that they are temporarily working abroad. But we have no data as they are deployed on all continents. Because Voters' List will be determined by expatriates who will register to vote in our embassies and consulates, "said Vice President Jakupi.
    He explains that in the world are known much simpler voting system of emigration. One of them is voting by mail. The emigrants were sending a blank ballot to home address. They fill in and send the mail again in the SEC. Another system with electronic voting.
    "The parties agreed on this concept and we like the SEC will have to perform," said Jakupi.
    Regarding the cost of elections for emigration, according to Vice-President, rough estimates suggest that they will cost a third of the total cost of the election. "If the 2008 election spent more than two million euros, these elections we expect to spend about three million, of which 700 thousand to one million will be spent on organizing the elections of the Diaspora.
    Most of the cost will go for travel expenses and hotel accommodation for 500 members of the Electoral Board, which will be deployed in 50 polling stations in all continents.
    "Members of election boards to organize elections in our diplomatic and consular offices will travel on Friday, Saturday takes place votes and return back on Sunday," said Jakupi.
    For expats vote will animate through the most circulated newspapers in the countries where they live. Those who wish to vote will have available ten days to register to vote.



    With the up-coming election offering the diaspora a spot in government, maybe they may get their wish and have their voice heard! - any takers?
  • George S.
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 10116

    #2
    fyrom that is absolutely rubbish where can i vote. What ever happened to automatic recogntiion of it's ctizens abroad .Most of us have got australian & yugoslav passports'I don't think they wan't the diasporra to vote as it might upset the balance of power.
    gruevski made the promise in 2006 that the diaspora would get the vote.What are they doing apart from raking in the cash for the passports.Also you can only vote at your embassy.Why not make it so you can vote at your local macedonian church.Why can't you vote by post.Or why can't you vote electronically.They are not serious enough for the diaspora.Why has greece & others automatically recognize it's citizens long time ago gave votes to it's diaspora & recognition.
    Last edited by George S.; 04-12-2011, 11:44 AM. Reason: edit
    "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
    GOTSE DELCEV

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    • Pelister
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 2742

      #3
      \
      Isn't it ironic that Gruevski is happy to meddle with our identity, is happy to allow out enemies to meddle with it, and is happy to court the unacceptible provisions of various foriegn institutions and powers (E.U and NATO), but is doing all he can to discourage Macedonians living outside their country having a say.

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      • George S.
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2009
        • 10116

        #4
        Pelister i'll beleive it when i see it.He might even say we approve of the tinkering by gruevski with our name.
        "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
        GOTSE DELCEV

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        • Bill77
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2009
          • 4545

          #5
          Originally posted by George S. View Post
          fyrom that is absolutely rubbish where can i vote. What ever happened to automatic recogntiion of it's ctizens abroad .Most of us have got australian & yugoslav passports'I don't think they wan't the diasporra to vote as it might upset the balance of power.
          George, i don't know what is required to be eligible to vote. You mention something about passports, but i can't find anything about that on the article that was posted in post 1.

          Regardless, if the criteria to vote, you need an "Macedonian" passport or "Citizenship" card (litchna karta), then i agree with it. Otherwise we have anyone claiming to be eligible to vote eg: Albanians, Kosovars etc.
          http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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          • Rogi
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 2343

            #6
            You'll need to prove your eligibilty to vote, with a passport or identity card (lichna karta) and you will need to make your way to the Macedonian Consulates and/or Embassies in your respective country of residence.

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            • Bill77
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 4545

              #7
              Originally posted by Rogi View Post
              You'll need to prove your eligibilty to vote, with a passport or identity card (lichna karta) and you will need to make your way to the Macedonian Consulates and/or Embassies in your respective country of residence.
              Well my whole Family has at least one of those documents. Now the issue is, who do we vote for?

              Would love MTO to bring up some suggestions.
              http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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              • George S.
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2009
                • 10116

                #8
                Bill it's confusing .i emailed the ambasador last year twice & he never replied back.It's like they never want's us to vote.
                "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
                GOTSE DELCEV

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                • makedonin
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1668

                  #9
                  To vote you must be citizent of RoM and must have requires a ID card or Passport.

                  I have both and don't have a clue for whom to vote.
                  Last edited by makedonin; 04-13-2011, 01:15 AM.
                  To enquire after the impression behind an idea is the way to remove disputes concerning nature and reality.

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                  • Daniel the Great
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 1084

                    #10
                    I have a Macedonian passport so that must mean i can vote. Do yous think these votes will be counted or just a sham to keep the Diaspora happy?

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                    • Bill77
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 4545

                      #11
                      EU and U.S. seek a declaration of the name


                      Google translate
                      European Union and the United States require parties in Macedonia before the election campaign with a written document to bind the first thing that would make the new government will resolve the name dispute with Greece.
                      As we learned from diplomatic sources, the attitude of official Washington and Brussels is that the place to grapple with its solution, the parties use the name issue in the daily political purposes and that under such conditions the dispute may be delayed indefinitely. According to our sources, this draft FMs meet on Saturday the leaders of VMRO-DUI and SDSM with the head of the European Commission Jose Manuel Barroso.
                      The parties of government and opposition yesterday refused to comment officially efforts of U.S. and EU for Macedonia to soon close the question what is the biggest obstacle to NATO membership and to start negotiations with the Union. Unofficially, in the VMRO and the SDSM no mood to sign any document that would promise to settle the dispute in advance because it is doomed to lose the election. And these elections will play a checked option to criticize the opponent because they have not resolved the name issue, without offering a specific solution to overcome the problem.
                      Almost simultaneously with the initiative of the EU and U.S., with its own proposal to resolve the dispute out and former Prime Minister Ljupco Georgievski, who asked the parties to sign declaration on Euro-Atlantic integration. According to the leader of VMRO-People's Party, the declaration will be submitted to all appropriate parties, parties that will form the next government will be obliged as soon as possible to close the name issue, and that the opposition not to use to attack. Parties consulted did not want to comment on the idea of ​​former prime minister.
                      Last year Andov and Tito Petkovski came with proposals for parties in Macedonia to build a harmonized position on name issue, but they failed because the ruling party had no ear for anything Andov offers state strategy according to which Macedonia should resolve the bilateral dispute Greece, without being threatened national interests.
                      Under that strategy, the new name that will be agreed Greece and Macedonia were to be used as a replacement for the current reference to the United Nations and that no politician no right to discuss a solution that does not contain clear and unambiguous confirmation of the Macedonian language, the Macedonian nation and identity.
                      The leader of the NSDP, Petkovski, says no need for a new declaration, but should only be activated by its resolution 2008 adopted by Parliament under which the government is obliged to resolve the dispute, thereby not compromising national interests regarding the naming of the language and the nation as Macedonian.
                      - Clearly the Minister does not want to solve the name issue. This question was the main point that won the election in 2008 and 2009, and so will almost certainly be in this election - said Petkovski. http://www.vreme.com.mk/DesktopDefau...EditionID=2287
                      wow....there is so many things and points to comment on this article. Where do i start????? how about from the beginning. Lets me start with the title......USA and EU are are bunch of pricks. They can stick their pens where the sun don't shine. How dare they interfere. da umrat site pichkamu majchin.
                      Last edited by Bill77; 04-13-2011, 07:45 AM.
                      http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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                      • fyrOM
                        Banned
                        • Feb 2010
                        • 2180

                        #12
                        In a different thread I said the USA are against us and was shot down being reminded the USA recognises Macedonia - like I said a slut is a slut is a slut, and only in Bible stories turns into not a slut later.

                        The heat is on (like I elsewhere said, but whose counting)- the EU and USA will squeeze for a change and IF
                        - a change happens (fat chance) will claim Kudos for bringing a solution and "furthering peaceful democracy in the world."
                        - a change does not happen and Macedonia swings the numbers in the UN they will claim they supported Macedonia all along from an early stage and are one of Macedonia's best friends and Macedonia should likewise be their best friend.

                        A slut is a slut.
                        Last edited by fyrOM; 04-13-2011, 09:06 AM.

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                        • Jankovska
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 1774

                          #13
                          I am not going to vote as I have no one I like to vote for. It is sad that in all this years that I have had the right to vote I have done so only once for Gruevski few years ago. He will never get my vote again therefore I run out of people to vote for. Suggestions?

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                          • fyrOM
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2010
                            • 2180

                            #14
                            Does anyone know of any diaspora candidates? Maybe you could vote for them, Jankovska. In the whole scheme of things even they have a role to play (ie help stop any change).

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                            • DirtyCodingHabitz
                              Member
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 835

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Jankovska View Post
                              I am not going to vote as I have no one I like to vote for. It is sad that in all this years that I have had the right to vote I have done so only once for Gruevski few years ago. He will never get my vote again therefore I run out of people to vote for. Suggestions?
                              How about for this party?
                              TMORO-VEP

                              Macedonian interests only, and the leader doesn't kissup to anyone.

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