what does the word vergina mean in greek

[osiris]

what does the word vergina mean in greek does anyone here know.

[Risto the Great]

I believe it all came about from a spelling mistake. It originally was found by a native Greek. When the symbol was found, Spiro said to Laki 'what did you find vre nigga'.
Another Greek overheard it and said 'vergina'. There it is.

[osiris]

thanks rtg i like your imagination and wit,

i googled and i got essays about vergina greek macedonia alexander etcetc but i didnt find what it means, is it a misunderstanding as you suggest or does it have some meaning in greek,

you know athena korinthos etc etc all have no meaning in greek.

does vergina mean anything in greek. or is it a pelasgian word.

because if it is then modern greece by their own proudly proclaimed law of word ownership, they have no right to use any non greek word in their modern geography.

they better hold on to greek coffee bro because it seems like thats all they will have one day

[The LION will ROAR]

Proto-Slavic term "Vergina"
How can the artificially Ellinized non-Greeks lay claim to the star of "Vergina" when they don't even have the letter "V" in their alphabet!?
The start of the so-called Greek alphabet is Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta.
The start of the Macedonian Cyrillic alphabet is A , B , V, G, D.

[Bill77]

Proto-Slavic term "Vergina"
How can the artificially Ellinized non-Greeks lay claim to the star of "Vergina" when they don't even have the letter "V" in their alphabet!?
The start of the so-called Greek alphabet is Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta.
The start of the Macedonian Cyrillic alphabet is A , B , V, G, D.

Good point Lion, but shit man, whach them throw one in now and claim "V" was always there and always Grik.

[fyrOM]

According to the webs resident all time expert on all things Greek georox or as I affectionately call him jocks rocks because some of the things he says tells you he wears his jocks on his head full of rocks says it means virgin and is associated with the goddess Athena and other gods.

georox
Greeks didn't just "discover it" in 1977 my Slavic friend. The technical name for it is the "starburst symbol" or "sunburst symbol" and can be found throughout the Greek world in antiquity from Sicily to Cyprus and from Crete to Macedonia as I already mentioned. What was "discovered" in 1977 was that this **pan-Hellenic** symbol was used by the Royal house of Macedon who were using it as their Symbol of the Argead Dynasty, the same dynasty in which the Macedonians themselves claimed descent from!

(Take a wild guess where Argos is my Slavic friend!

The Argead Dynasty:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argead_dynasty

Here is a thread I started a while ago with DOZENS of examples of this **pan-Hellenic** symbol, some of them dating WELL BEFORE the time of Philip of Macedon!

The pan-Hellenic "Sunburst" Symbol:
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/macedonia/TJ...

In every form, the Sun of Vergina symbolized Virginity. Goddess Athena was a Virgin, so this Sun was associated with her.
We can also find this symbol associated with Apollo. All the versions (16, 12 and 8-pointed Sun) are associated with another famous Greek symbol, the "Delphian Epsilon", symbol of Apollo.

The Delphian Epsilon:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff101/mace...

The Sun of Vergina became a common art design in coins, craters, wall-drawings, etc, LONG BEFORE the Macedonian royal house (the Argead Dynasty) used it. After the unification of the Greek (Hellenic) nation under the leadership of Alexander the Great, the Sun of Vergina became the symbol of the Hellenic Ethnogenesis.

The tradition passed from the ancient Greek to the Byzantine period. Athena was the virgin Godess, so when Christianity "arrived" in Greece, Greeks replaced Athena with the Madonna (the mother of Jesus Christ). So all the temples of Athena became churches of Madonna (including the Parthenon) and all the symbols that had a connection with Athena became Madonna's symbols. So did the Sun of Vergina, it just became the symbol of Madonna!

The Byzantine Artists referred to the "Sun of Vergina" as the "Aeiparthenon", which means "For ever Virgin".
A typical image of Madonna includes 3 Suns of Vergina (Aeiparthena). These 3 suns, as Byzantinologists say, symbolize the fact that Mary remained a virgin before the conception, during the gestation, and after the birth of Jesus Christ.

Here is an example of the "Aeiparthenon" fom an icon from Belingheiro Italy, produced in 1230:
http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w45/chrisp...

Here is another icon from Patmos Greece, produced in the 15th century:
http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w45/chrisp...

Virgin Amolyntos from Crete produced in 15th century:
http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w45/chrisp...

Virgin Mother Eleusa from Russia produced in 14th century:
http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w45/chrisp...

Were the Italians and Russians depicting the "Macedonian Sun" too??

The truth is that the Sun of Vergina held no significance to any nation prior to its excavation in 1977.

Also, those icons that you guys like to use as "proof" that you have always been using them were in reality all painted by Greek iconographers who held the majority power within the church on ALL levels throughout the Byzantine period!

[Bij]

According to the webs resident all time expert on all things Greek georox or as I affectionately call him jocks rocks because some of the things he says tells you he wears his jocks on his head full of rocks says it means virgin and is associated with the goddess Athena and other gods.

georox
Greeks didn't just "discover it" in 1977 my Slavic friend. The technical name for it is the "starburst symbol" or "sunburst symbol" and can be found throughout the Greek world in antiquity from Sicily to Cyprus and from Crete to Macedonia as I already mentioned. What was "discovered" in 1977 was that this **pan-Hellenic** symbol was used by the Royal house of Macedon who were using it as their Symbol of the Argead Dynasty, the same dynasty in which the Macedonians themselves claimed descent from!

(Take a wild guess where Argos is my Slavic friend!

The Argead Dynasty:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argead_dynasty

Here is a thread I started a while ago with DOZENS of examples of this **pan-Hellenic** symbol, some of them dating WELL BEFORE the time of Philip of Macedon!

The pan-Hellenic "Sunburst" Symbol:
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/macedonia/TJ...

In every form, the Sun of Vergina symbolized Virginity. Goddess Athena was a Virgin, so this Sun was associated with her.
We can also find this symbol associated with Apollo. All the versions (16, 12 and 8-pointed Sun) are associated with another famous Greek symbol, the "Delphian Epsilon", symbol of Apollo.

The Delphian Epsilon:
http://i238.photobucket.com/albums/ff101/mace...

The Sun of Vergina became a common art design in coins, craters, wall-drawings, etc, LONG BEFORE the Macedonian royal house (the Argead Dynasty) used it. After the unification of the Greek (Hellenic) nation under the leadership of Alexander the Great, the Sun of Vergina became the symbol of the Hellenic Ethnogenesis.

The tradition passed from the ancient Greek to the Byzantine period. Athena was the virgin Godess, so when Christianity "arrived" in Greece, Greeks replaced Athena with the Madonna (the mother of Jesus Christ). So all the temples of Athena became churches of Madonna (including the Parthenon) and all the symbols that had a connection with Athena became Madonna's symbols. So did the Sun of Vergina, it just became the symbol of Madonna!

The Byzantine Artists referred to the "Sun of Vergina" as the "Aeiparthenon", which means "For ever Virgin".
A typical image of Madonna includes 3 Suns of Vergina (Aeiparthena). These 3 suns, as Byzantinologists say, symbolize the fact that Mary remained a virgin before the conception, during the gestation, and after the birth of Jesus Christ.

Here is an example of the "Aeiparthenon" fom an icon from Belingheiro Italy, produced in 1230:
http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w45/chrisp...

Here is another icon from Patmos Greece, produced in the 15th century:
http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w45/chrisp...

Virgin Amolyntos from Crete produced in 15th century:
http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w45/chrisp...

Virgin Mother Eleusa from Russia produced in 14th century:
http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w45/chrisp...

Were the Italians and Russians depicting the "Macedonian Sun" too??

The truth is that the Sun of Vergina held no significance to any nation prior to its excavation in 1977.

Also, those icons that you guys like to use as "proof" that you have always been using them were in reality all painted by Greek iconographers who held the majority power within the church on ALL levels throughout the Byzantine period!

I'm sorry, is this guy serious?

if Aeiparthenon means forever virgin, then how did he rip out Vergina = virgin?

I just don't get it. is this supposed to be an etymology or a wet dream?

[Risto the Great]

I just don't get it. is this supposed to be an etymology or a wet dream?

It is both .... a "wetymology".

Greeks are masters in the art of wetymology.

[Bij]

It is both .... a "wetymology".

Greeks are masters in the art of wetymology.

another 'first' they can claim, no doubt.

[The LION will ROAR]

I cant understand these Greeks with their theory about 16 Ray Sun…?
They say 12 gods and 4 elements…But did they forget the other gods..?
Greeks have No Evidence from them to state it.. Wishful thinking
OK GREEKS…What about 4 Ray Suns found here , what about 8th Ray Suns? what about 12 Ray Suns..lol everyone of them found in Macedonia

[fyrOM]

I forgot to mention he also claims to be an art history professor at a university but has not said which. hence he claims to have real authority on Greek matters.

[Mygdon]

gyna (zena)

[osiris]

lets not forget in ancient time it was routinely accepted by the helenes that their gods were aegyptian and pelasgian.

sorry lion the sound v exists in greek its b that does not exist. beta is actually pronounced veta
maybe it means vera worship and gyna zhena woman, so does the zh become a g because as we all know greeks are vocally challenged and have trouble pronouncing certain sounds like zh sh j.

so is it where we worship the lady, or is it just another one of the countless coincidences like it.

[makedonin]

γηνα > in Ancient gena with a long e
жена > zhena

are the same.

the ancient greeks did not have V character. the β was pronounced as hard B.

if it was writen Βεργηνα most probably it would be pronounced in ancient times as BERGENA where the second E character long E.

[Spartan]

B is pronounced as V in Greek.
We have to combine m and p to make the B sound.

I have to agree with osiris on this one.