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  • Daskalot
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
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    German MEP Chatzimarkakis



    EP recommends Accession talks with Macedonia

    Thursday, 26 November 2009

    The Council of EU at its summit on December 7 to confirm European Commission's recommendation for start of accession talks with Macedonia, it is required by a resolution on EU enlargement with Western Balkan countries, Turkey and Iceland, which was endorsed with a majority of votes by the European Parliament (EP) on Thursday.

    The document prepared by the chairman of EP's Foreign Affairs Committee, Italian MEP Gabriele Albertini, doesn't condition the launch of membership talks with a prior name row settlement. Instead it encourages Macedonia and Greece to boost their efforts to resolve the issue, because "a mutually acceptable solution could be found".

    Use of name Macedonia caused a heated discussion late Wednesday at the European Parliament plenary session.

    German MEP Bernd Posselt opposed Greek deputy Nikolaos Salavrakos, who asked MEPs not to use name Macedonia but the interim reference.

    "Macedonia is Macedonia and will remain Macedonia. These discussions will certainly not help the neighboring country", said Posselt, reminding on the similar stance of Greens leader Daniel Cohn-Bendit.

    Deutsche Welle-Macedonian Program reported that Posselt earlier asked for mitigation of the wording used in the resolution, which includes too much accusations towards Macedonia when referring to bilateral good neighborly relations, since "it is not the only country responsible".

    Chairman of the Joint Parliamentary Committee EU-Macedonia, German MEP Jorgo Chatzimarkakis claimed that the country's only problem was the name issue.

    "The important thing is just to jump over a shadow. I think the two parties are ready to go one step further. A five-minute meeting between the countries' PMs on Friday will not solve the whole issue. However, the objective is important, whereas more time is required to find a permanent solution. If not, a hastened settlement could be reached, which would be catastrophic in the long-term", added Chatzimarkakis.

    In a statement for Radio Deutsche Welle, Chatzimarkakis said a solution to the name has been found.

    "The two countries have already agreed on the name. However, its use is causing problems. Nevertheless, the current spirit provides the opportunity for a solution", he added.

    EU Enlargement Commissioner Olli Rehn, who participated at the EU plenary session, said Macedonia is ready to start the Union's accession negotiations and there is still a possibility for settling the name row ahead of the EU Summit in December.

    Resolving of the name problem would add to Macedonia's chances to get a date, Radio Deutsche Welle-Macedonian language programme quoted Rehn's address before the the Joint Parliamentary Committee EU-Macedonia in Strasbourg.

    The EU Enlargement Commissioner noted Macedonia's progress towards the membership, pointing out that the country is capable to start the negotiations with the Union.

    Rehn called on MEPs to encourage their governments to make a brave decision on Macedonia in line with the EU strategic interests, which also includes the enlargement process.

    The resolution adopted by EP welcomes the recent establishment of diplomatic relations between Macedonia and Kosovo and the signing of an agreement on physical border demarcation, which are seen as positive contribution to regional stability.

    Macedonia is commended as well for the progress made in recent months and which was acknowledged by the European Commission by recommending launch of accession talks with EU.

    Furthermore, the document urges Macedonian authorities to resume reform processes, especially in public administration and judiciary, fight against corruption, women's rights and inter-ethnic relations, including guarantees for the rights of members of all ethnic communities and their increased participation in public administration.

    MEPs also welcomed the upcoming visa liberalisation for Macedonia, Serbia and Montenegro, which is expected to enter into force as of Dec. 19.
    Macedonian Truth Organisation
  • Daskalot
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 4345

    #2
    Sounds promising, but the Greeks will most likely veto their way thru this one.
    Macedonian Truth Organisation

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    • Risto the Great
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 15658

      #3
      I hope the Greeks do veto it.
      I don't want Macedonia in the EU.
      But after they do, I would want Macedonia to demand that Greece proves what is Macedonian in Greece.
      Risto the Great
      MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
      "Holding my breath for the revolution."

      Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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      • Prolet
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2009
        • 5241

        #4
        The Greeks have white listed us and they will be handing out pieces of white paper where they will be stamping arrivals. I think on that piece of paper it will say that they dont recognize our passports its no different to the visas now that they issue.

        SOM, Im not too sure if they will be placing FYROM stickers on the back screens but they will surly provoke us somehow towards the start of this. Egejska Makedonija will be full of tourists, everyone will go there because its so close especially people from the Bitola and Prespa region na Bira ke mu odat tamu.

        Во Грција ќе се влегува со ливче хартија
        26.11.2009 - 20:11 |

        * Македонија

        Од 19-ти декември Македонците во Грција ќе влегуваат без визи, но со посебен лист хартија кој грчките власти ќе го издаваат на самите гранични премини.

        Наместо во пасош печатите за влез и излез цариниците ќе ги ставаат на посебен лист, кој патниците ќе треба да го чуваат за време на престојот и потоа.

        Вака Грција одлучи да го применува безвизниот режим за Македонија кој по барање на Словенците ќе стапи во сила на 19-ти идниот месец. Конечната одлука со која Македонија во друштво на Србија и Црна Гора официјално ќе преминат на белата шенген листа, Советот на министри ќе ја донесе во понеделник.

        Без визи, во шенген зоната ќе може да патуваат само оние кои имаат биометриски пасош. На останатите кои имаат стари патни исправи и понатаму ќе им биде потребана виза.

        ЕУ ги потсетува граѓаните дека безвизниот режим важи само за кратки патувања.
        Во шенген зоната ќе биде дозволен престој до 90 дена во рок од 6 месеци. За студирање или работа и понатму задолжителна е дозвола за привремен или подолг престој.

        Од канцеларијата на ЕУ во Скопје, ги демантираат разногласијата дека граѓаните на граница ќе мора да приложуваат гарантни писма или увид на банкарски сметки.
        Доколку лицето оди во посета на роднини доволно ќе биде да го каже нивното име и адреса. Доколку, пак нема хотелска резревација ќе треба да потврди дека понел доволно пари за да се смести некаде.

        Сепак, останува дискреционото право на граничните служби кого ќе пуштат, а кого не. Одбивањето ќе мора писмено да го образложат, а одбиените граѓани ќе имаат право да ја обжалат ваквата одлука.

        Како превентива од илегална миграција, дел од шенген земјите веќе воведоа строга регулатива и казни не само за оние кои ќе го злоупотребат слободниот влез, (и ќе останат подолго од доволеното), но и за нивните државјани кои на некаков начин го помагаат ваквиот нелегален престој.

        Во споредба со Србија и Црна Гора, Македонија е рекордер во бројката на издадени биометриски пасоши. Речиси 90% од граѓаните поседуваат нови патни исправи слободно ќе патуваат во Европа.



        Now all the Albanian Drug lords will give us a bad name, they will go to the EU and commit some crime and the rest of us will cop it. I hope our MNR keeps a strong leash on these idiots, give them their names to the EU countries so they know what they are dealing with.
        МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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        • Soldier of Macedon
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 13670

          #5
          In theory, 'unions' have many pros, but the cons are exposed as soon as members of the 'union' begin to act in the interest of themselves and not the 'union', which is what Greece has done several times.

          If we get visa permits to travel freely within the EU, it is as good as being in it. For the sake of our national dignity in light of the EU's attitude and behaviour towards Macedonia, we should stop there.
          In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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          • Soldier of Macedon
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 13670

            #6
            And after all the false promises by Europe again, Macedonia is left hanging in limbo, just the way the Greeks and their supporters in Europe want it.

            The European Union has deferred a decision on opening membership talks with Macedonia, after neighboring Greece opposed an early start to the negotiations.


            BRUSSELS (Reuters) -- The European Union has deferred a decision on opening membership talks with Macedonia, after neighboring Greece opposed an early start to the negotiations.

            A statement agreed by EU foreign ministers in Brussels today said they would consider the issue again during the Spanish EU presidency, which runs from January 1 until June 30, 2010.

            Macedonia had hoped EU leaders would set a date for the start of negotiations at a summit this week, after the executive European Commission supported the move in October.

            But Athens opposes Macedonia's EU entry because of issues over Macedonia's name. Macedonia is the name of a Greek province bordering the former Yugoslav republic and Athens regards the overlap as an encroachment on its sovereignty.

            "The council notes that the commission recommends the opening of accession negotiations with the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia and will return to the matter during the next presidency," the ministers said in a statement.

            An earlier draft statement said the ministers would consider the issue in March 2010, with a view to setting a date for the opening of accession negotiations.

            An EU diplomat said Athens had indicated it would not consider lifting its block on Macedonia's progress until after Greek presidential election in March 2010.

            French Europe Minister Pierre Lellouche said on December 7 that ministers were divided, with Greece opposing the mention of a date to start negotiations and other countries wanting the talks to start as soon as possible.

            He said France -- which wants to delay any further EU enlargement after the expected accession of Croatia and Iceland in 2012 -- had backed Greece as a sign of solidarity, even if it was in the EU's interests to start talks as soon as possible.

            The approved statement welcomed Macedonia's progress in reform, in particular the fight against corruption. It called on Macedonia to ensure the independence of the judiciary.

            Macedonia has made progress in forging closer ties with the EU in the last few months and the bloc is to lift visa restrictions on its citizens on December 19. But Greece remains an obstacle and it prevented Macedonia from joining NATO last year.

            The EU ministers stressed the need for a resolution of the name issue and of maintaining good neighborly relations. At the same time they said they were encouraged by recent positive developments in relations between Greece and Macedonia.

            And in 2010 they will defer, and will continue to defer. How much longer will Macedonia be allowed to suffer like this?
            In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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            • Bill77
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2009
              • 4545

              #8
              Macedonian President blasts the European Union


              The Macedonian president launched a scathing attack this evening against the European Union condemning it for double standards.

              - We will not cave under any pressure to change our name or identity just to be a part of the European Union. We've lived this (hi)story many times before, not again. Whatever the outcome of the talks in Brussels, Macedonia will stay right here. We have a European perspective that will be achieved together, with the support of all ethnic and religious communities, all parties and all citizens of Macedonia - Ivanov emphasized.

              In the presence of foreign ambassadors in the country, he said that Europe unfortunately still has leaders who allow to be carried away by someone's petty interests and hidden agenda.

              - Any violations of EU's principles today, tomorrow will bring new violations, new disorders, dozens of new blockades. Who knows what will be asked of us tomorrow!? Macedonia gets a hesitant response, we receive requests and rules which apply only to us and change from day to day, we let obstructions and pressures from petty interests decide outcomes. We see the absence of vision at the EU. We hear of integration announcements first for 2012, then 2014, 2015. How we can achieve those terms? With obstacles and obstructions - asked Ivanov.



              http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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              • Soldier of Macedon
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 13670

                #9
                Good statement by Ivanov:

                We will not cave under any pressure to change our name or identity just to be a part of the European Union.........

                Hold true to your word Mr President - Macedonians will support you.
                In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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                • Prolet
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 5241

                  #10
                  SOM, Gjorgje Ivanov is a champion and a true President, not even Boris Trajkovski had the balls he does.
                  МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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                  • makedonche
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 3242

                    #11
                    Well done Ivanov, it's about time the EU got a serve instead of just expecting ROM to tolerate all the bs dished out! Perhaps next time Gjorgje can add a few demands from the Macedonian people in his next serve eg. "we do not wish to become part of a union containing members who use political blackmail and practice racism and openly fail to recognise the rights of all minorities"
                    On Delchev's sarcophagus you can read the following inscription: "We swear the future generations to bury these sacred bones in the capital of Independent Macedonia. August 1923 Illinden"

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                    • Risto the Great
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 15658

                      #12
                      Originally posted by Bill77 View Post
                      Macedonian President blasts the European Union


                      The Macedonian president launched a scathing attack this evening against the European Union condemning it for double standards.

                      - We will not cave under any pressure to change our name or identity just to be a part of the European Union. We've lived this (hi)story many times before, not again. Whatever the outcome of the talks in Brussels, Macedonia will stay right here. We have a European perspective that will be achieved together, with the support of all ethnic and religious communities, all parties and all citizens of Macedonia - Ivanov emphasized.

                      In the presence of foreign ambassadors in the country, he said that Europe unfortunately still has leaders who allow to be carried away by someone's petty interests and hidden agenda.

                      - Any violations of EU's principles today, tomorrow will bring new violations, new disorders, dozens of new blockades. Who knows what will be asked of us tomorrow!? Macedonia gets a hesitant response, we receive requests and rules which apply only to us and change from day to day, we let obstructions and pressures from petty interests decide outcomes. We see the absence of vision at the EU. We hear of integration announcements first for 2012, then 2014, 2015. How we can achieve those terms? With obstacles and obstructions - asked Ivanov.



                      http://macedoniaonline.eu/content/view/10639/1/
                      This is almost the "news I would like to see" .... except that it is real for once! Well done Gospodin Ivanov. In the presence of foreign ambassadors no less. I am impressed.
                      Risto the Great
                      MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                      "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                      Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                      • Prolet
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 5241

                        #13
                        PM Gruevski: Events unfolded as expected
                        Tuesday, 08 December 2009


                        The events at the EU Council in Brussels were expected at great extent because Greece announced several times to block Macedonia if it does not give up our identity and our name and does not accept their conditions.

                        Macedonian PM Nikola Gruevski assessed this on Tuesday at the press conference in Brussels after EU Council deferred a decision on opening membership talks with Macedonia during the Spanish EU presidency for the first half of 2010.

                        - We are very surprised but this time it was made on more sophisticated manner than in Bucharest Summit, although the possibility to debate the name issue in the next six months leaves hope that something will move in this direction, PM Gruevski said.

                        According to Gruevski it is obvious that Greece did not want an agreement to be reached.

                        - They wanted to show arguments of power and this is not a surprise. But now we cannot change anything. We have accomplished what depended from us. We are now facing 18 years old problem and the government that is not ready to come to a solution, Gruevski said.

                        He announced that Macedonia will continue with efforts to approach towards the EU and to find solution to name dispute. – We will continue also with internal reforms and all matters needed for Euro-Atlantic integration. But this is situation that does not depend only from us. We have fulfilled the benchmarks now there are things that do not only depend from us. Greece obviously requests things from us that no one in the world is requesting from no one, Gruevski said, adding that Macedonian side is ready to meet the Greek side but this depends from them.

                        Commenting the positions that Macedonia missed historical chance, Gruevski said that for him this chance was giving up the name, language and identity. – All those who criticised that we have missed the historical chance, I am answering that this chance is erasing itself from the map of nations and erasing own identity, Gruevski said.

                        He thanked the Chairman of the EU Council Carl Bildt who made great efforts. He said that there was support from many states – I am satisfied that Swedish EU Presidency made great efforts even greater than we expected, Gruevski said.

                        Today’s outcome in Brussels can be defined as new Greek hypocrisy, because as country which allegedly urges all Western Balkans to join EU as soon as possible, at the first opportunity instead of giving chance to our country to start EU accession talks, it blocks it, FM Antonio Milososki said presenting official position of the Macedonian government after EU Council deferred a decision on opening membership talks with Macedonia, after Greece opposed an early start to the negotiations.

                        Milososki said that blocking will not only harm the EU image but will additionally violate the reputation of the EU integration process. He thanked the Swedish EU Presidency and numerous EU member states that supported considering the issue in March 2010, with a view to setting a date for the opening of accession negotiations.

                        - This shows that all other member states appreciate our progress, valorize it seriously and this will be our motivation to resume the reforms and to be successful in finding ways in fulfilling our ambitions on legitimate, real and achievable way, Milososki said in the Macedonian Parliament.

                        Milososki said that blockades from official Athens regarding deserved opening of membership talks will not contribute in improvement of atmosphere in bilateral talks in name dispute, but at the same time Macedonia will continue here which considered constructive contribution aimed at moving forward. - However, I’m pointing out that blockades will not bring advantage; Athens blockades will not change our minds to continue to represent and to defend our constitutional norms and our national, lingual and Macedonian identity. It is European value and it would be contradictory if a member state expects with its abuse of membership to disable a small peaceful nation to clearly express and to promote its national and state identity, Milososki said.

                        A statement agreed by EU foreign ministers in Brussels today said they would consider the issue again during the Spanish EU presidency in the first half of 2010.

                        The European Union has deferred decision on opening membership talks with Macedonia for next year, EU Enlargement Commission Olli Rehn said after EU Council meeting ends in Brussels.

                        - The EU council notes that the commission recommends the opening of accession negotiations with Macedonia and will return to the matter during the Spanish EU Presidency, starting from Jan. 1, 2010, Rehn said at the press conference.

                        EU foreign ministers in Brussels after two-day debate said Tuesday they would consider the issue again during the Spanish EU Presidency, which runs from 1 January until 30 June 2010, media reports from Brussels.

                        Although many EU member states backed setting a date for start of membership talks, still it is postponed due to Greece opposing and insisting on previously resolving the name issue. This will only further complicate things in 2010.

                        МАКЕДОНЕЦ си кога кавал ќе ти ја распара душата,зурла ќе ти го раскине срцето,кога секое влакно од кожата ќе ти се наежи кога ќе видиш шеснаесеткрако сонце,кога до коска ќе те заболи кога ќе слушнеш ПЈРМ,кога немаш ни за леб,а полн си во душата затоа што ја сакаш МАКЕДОНИЈА. МАКЕДОНИЈА во срце те носиме.

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                        • Bill77
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 4545

                          #14
                          Some pats on the back should also be given to Gruevski and Milososki

                          This is from Gruevski,

                          According to Gruevski it is obvious that Greece did not want an agreement to be reached.

                          - They wanted to show arguments of power and this is not a surprise. But now we cannot change anything. We have accomplished what depended from us. We are now facing 18 years old problem and the government that is not ready to come to a solution, Gruevski said.

                          Commenting the positions that Macedonia missed historical chance, Gruevski said that for him this chance was giving up the name, language and identity. – All those who criticised that we have missed the historical chance, I am answering that this chance is erasing itself from the map of nations and erasing own identity, Gruevski said.


                          From Milososki,

                          Today’s outcome in Brussels can be defined as new Greek hypocrisy, because as country which allegedly urges all Western Balkans to join EU as soon as possible, at the first opportunity instead of giving chance to our country to start EU accession talks, it blocks it, FM Antonio Milososki said presenting official position of the Macedonian government after EU Council deferred a decision on opening membership talks with Macedonia, after Greece opposed an early start to the negotiations.

                          Milososki said that blocking will not only harm the EU image but will additionally violate the reputation of the EU integration process. He thanked the Swedish EU Presidency and numerous EU member states that supported considering the issue in March 2010, with a view to setting a date for the opening of accession negotiations.

                          - This shows that all other member states appreciate our progress, valorize it seriously and this will be our motivation to resume the reforms and to be successful in finding ways in fulfilling our ambitions on legitimate, real and achievable way, Milososki said in the Macedonian Parliament.

                          Milososki said that blockades from official Athens regarding deserved opening of membership talks will not contribute in improvement of atmosphere in bilateral talks in name dispute...........

                          Athens blockades will not change our minds to continue to represent and to defend our constitutional norms and our national, lingual and Macedonian identity. It is European value and it would be contradictory if a member state expects with its abuse of membership to disable a small peaceful nation to clearly express and to promote its national and state identity, Milososki said.

                          http://www.macedoniantruth.org/forum/showthread.php?p=120873#post120873

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                          • Risto the Great
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 15658

                            #15
                            Gruevski said that for him this chance was giving up the name, language and identity. – All those who criticised that we have missed the historical chance, I am answering that this chance is erasing itself from the map of nations and erasing own identity, Gruevski said.
                            The line was drawn in the sand and our leaders did not let us down. They are to be commended for holding the will of the Macedonian people first and foremost in their thoughts.
                            Risto the Great
                            MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                            "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                            Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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