Оружена борба за одбрана на името - ТМОРО В

[Bratot]

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TMORO VEP donese obvrzuvacka odluka so koja jas kako pretsedatel na partijata,dokolku koj bilo i koga bilo donese odluka za promena na imeto na drzavata Makedonija i brisenje na identitetot na makedonskiot narod,go povikam makedonskiot narod na ORUZENA odbrana na makedonskoto postoenje.

[Bratot]

Strašo Angelovski (Macedonian: Страшо Ангеловски, born 5 August 1959 in Skopje) is a Macedonian politician. He is the current leader of the far-right political party TMORO-VEP (Tatkovinska Makedonska Organizacija za Radikalna Obnova - VARDAR EGEJ PIRIN), and previously led the MAAK-Conservative Party.

In 2001 he organised demonstrations which blocked the entrance to the Assembly of the Republic of Macedonia, delaying a session by six hours, in protest to the Ohrid Accord between ethnic Albanian insurgents and the government.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stra%C5%A1o_Angelovski

Do you think our sleeping "lions" are capable of practicing such measures?

[DedoAleko]

Makedonija ima ocajna potreba od tvrdo krilo i Makedonci od tipot na Angelovski.

[Louis Riel]

At least someone is talking tough.......finally!

[Dimko-piperkata]

cool....maybe the next leader !!!

gruevski should now be warned ! dont play with our name/identity....step back from the negotiations and start negotiating the real issue OUR STOLEN LAND !!!

[julie]

cool....maybe the next leader !!!

gruevski should now be warned ! dont play with our name/identity....step back from the negotiations and start negotiating the real issue OUR STOLEN LAND !!!

Strašo Angelovski sounds like the man for it

[Volk]

Finally someone said it...

a name change or anything that threatens our identity should be met with arms and force by every Macedonian not just in the Republic but around the world!

[George S.]

it's about time someone spoke out.i would not be surprisedto see violence around the world escalate changing a persons name against their will is the lowest of the low.

[Daniel the Great]

I have never heard of this guy nor have i heard of his party. He sounds like a true Macedonian patriot that will never ever betray his people the Macedonians and his country Macedonia. Macedonia needs a leader like Straso Angelovski, tough , determined, loyal and patriotic to move Macedonia forward.

[indigen]

I have never heard of this guy nor have i heard of his party. He sounds like a true Macedonian patriot that will never ever betray his people the Macedonians and his country Macedonia. Macedonia needs a leader like Straso Angelovski, tough , determined, loyal and patriotic to move Macedonia forward.

Then you are either a political ostrich (with his head in the sand) or too young to know that he has been around for 20 years and operating in similar mode all this time. HE is ALL HOT AIR and NO ACTION and is best to IGNORE him as ABSOLUTELY NOTHING will come out of all his "super-patriot" talking. It will serve as nothing more than a DIVERSION and, IME, he performs this as an orchestrated role at the behest of political puppet masters (most likely a capitulating ruling party, as happened in 2001).

Do some google searches for the period of 2001 and/or visit the archive sections of the various Macedonian online news media and you should be able to find info about all his empty tough talk that produced no real action or results.

[DirtyCodingHabitz]

I have never heard of this guy nor have i heard of his party.

His parties was before VMRO and when VMRO was created everyone left the party because people thought "the heroes are back to save Macedonia because the party is called VMRO". My dad was in his party and everyone in my family.

[indigen]

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Newsgroups: alt.news.macedonia
From: [email protected]
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001
Local: Tues, Aug 14 2001
Subject: Peace Deal Agreed

Peace Deal Agreed

9 August 2001
Leading Macedonian and Albanian politicians agree on constitutional amendments amidst continued violence on the ground.
by Vlado Jovanovski

SKOPJE, Macedonia--Ohrid, a medieval town in the far southwest of the country on the shores of Lake Ohrid, is a sacred place for ethnic Macedonians, perhaps as much as Jerusalem is for Jews and Arabs. But odds are that Ohrid will now become the Macedonian Dayton, the place where an historic agreement between the country’s two biggest ethnic communities, the majority Macedonians and minority Albanians, was reached.

The leaders of four largest parties in the country signed off on a peace deal on 8 August after a series of setbacks which threatened to rock the internationally sponsored negotiations. The leaders only initialed the agreement in Ohrid; a formal signing ceremony is scheduled for 13 August in the capital Skopje, U.S. Chief mediator James Pardew and his EU counterpart Francois Leotard announced. The agreement clears the way for the arrival of 3,000-strong, British-led NATO force to oversee the weapon decommissioning by the National Liberation Army (UCK), an ethnic-Albanian guerilla group that in February launched rebellion in the west and north of the country.
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The latest in the series of setbacks took place only hours before the deal was initialed. On the morning of 8 August, on the Skopje-Tetovo highway, a Macedonian Army convoy of some 40 vehicles--including tanks, armored personnel carriers and trucks--was ambushed by the UCK. Eight soldiers and two officers were killed. The ambush was followed by a swift response from the Macedonian security forces, including helicopter gunships. Battles raged in the hills above Tetovo and in the city itself. Parts of Tetovo fell under UCK control for much of the day.

The fighting came after ethnic Macedonian police killed five suspected UCK members on 7 August in a night raid on a house in a Skopje neighborhood, raising serious doubts about the ability of the four party leaders to influence extremists in the armed forces on both sides. The fresh violence also came amid frequent reports from Ohrid that the parties had resolved all disputed issues and that an agreement was imminent. The word on 7 August was that an official signing ceremony would be held in Skopje on 10 August. But Macedonian Prime Minister Ljubco Georgievski, who is also the leader of the right-wing nationalist Internal Macedonian Revolutionary Organization-Democratic Party for Macedonian National Unity (VMRO-DPMNE), suspended his participation in the talks as soon as the word of the convoy ambush reached Ohrid. Only a few hours later, Georgievski initialed the agreement together with the other three leaders, surprising many even in his own party.

The agreement envisages that the Albanian language will become the second official language in municipalities where ethnic Albanians make more than 20 percent of population. The other bitterly disputed issue--that of the ethnic makeup of the Macedonian police force and its command structure--was resolved so that by 2004, the ethnic makeup of the police will reflect that of the county itself. (The last census in 1994 showed 66 percent ethnic Macedonians and 23 percent ethnic Albanians.) In the next two years, the Interior Ministry will recruit and train 1000 ethnic Albanians. The police will remain under central government control, and candidates for municipal police chief will be nominated by the interior minister and appointed by municipal councils. At least one candidate nominated by the minister will have to come from the minority ethnic group dominant in that municipality.

The issue of the religious communities’ relation to the state was expected to be resolved by removing the controversial article in the Macedonian constitution that grants the Macedonian Orthodox Church exclusive entitlement to state support. Instead, an amendment will be added to the constitution giving the same rights to the Islamic Community--most Macedonian ethnic Albanians are Muslim--as well as to the small but very influential Catholic Church.

The forthcoming signing of the agreement will mark the completion of the second phase of the President Boris Trajkovski’s plan, which was announced in early June. The first phase saw the signing of a cease-fire agreement on 6 July. The arrival of the Macedonia Force (MFOR), the NATO force that will supervise the disarming and disbanding of the UCK, was envisaged as the third phase. Precise details of the operation are still under discussion.

HURDLES REMAIN

The NATO spokesman in Skopje, Major Barry Johnson, says the operation--code-named Essential Harvest--will start 48 hours after the North Atlantic Council (NAC) in Brussels gives a go-ahead for the MFOR mission. The operation will last at least 30 days. Johnson stressed on 8 August, however, that two additional sets of documents must be agreed upon and signed by the parties before the NAC can clear the way for the MFOR deployment. Ali Ahmeti, the UCK political leader, needs to sign a technical document specifying weapons and equipment his force will hand over to NATO. At the same time, the Macedonian government is required to issue a statement granting amnesty to all UCK fighters who did not commit crimes against humanity.

The chief NATO representative in Skopje, Ambassador Peter Feith, who mediates between the Macedonian authorities and Ahmeti, told President Trajkovski on 7 August that Ahmeti was ready to sign the following statement: “We welcome and accept the offer of the president of the Republic of Macedonia to exempt from criminal prosecution those UCK members who disarm voluntarily, with the exception of those who committed crimes in the International Criminal Tribunal for Former Yugoslavia jurisdiction. Likewise, UCK members wish to take up the Macedonian president’s offer to reintegrate into society in accordance with the plan of President Boris Trajkovski and the ‘Framework Agreement for Overcoming the Crisis.’”

The correlation between the disarming of the UCK and the procedure of adopting the proposed constitutional amendments is still disputed. Stojan Andov, the speaker of the parliament, said the changes will be adopted only after operation Essential Harvest has been completed. The ethnic Albanian parties fear obstruction in the parliament and insist that the amendments be adopted before the UCK is disarmed. NATO Ambassador to Macedonia Hansjorg Eiff suggested a compromise. “There should be certain parallelism. We are ready to come to Macedonia to start the mission of decommissioning of not only arms and ammunitions, but also the UCK uniforms so that this organization disappears from the scene completely. We have pretty good information on what the UCK has and will insist that we get all of its weapons, especially heavy weapons such as mortars, antitank mines, rockets, heavy weapons, and machine guns. But the Macedonian side, too, needs to
show proof that it will stick to the signed political agreement and that there will be no problem regarding the adoption of the constitutional amendments,” Eiff said.

Leotard supported this position, saying the whole procedure in the parliament should be completed within 45 days.

Caution on the part of Western mediators is well founded. There are many signs that a number of parliamentary deputies of the two leading Macedonian parties, VMRO-DPMNE and the Social Democratic Party of Macedonia (SDSM), are not ready to support constitutional reform so long as large parts of the northwest of the country are in effect controlled by the UCK. Smaller ethnic Macedonian parliamentary parties are even more skeptical. The leader of Democratic Alternative, Vasil Tupurkovski--who once was a leading proponent of an early agreement with the ethnic Albanian minority--described the Ohrid agreement as “tragic for Macedonia because it will lead to partition of the country.” Tupurkovski said six deputies from his party will vote against constitutional changes.

Milanco Cerkezov of the extreme right-wing VMRO-Vistinske (Real VMRO) began a hunger-strike. His party colleague Jordan Boskov said he would continue when Cerkezov
“reaches the end of his protest.”

The leader of the ultra-nationalist Macedonian Action (MAAK), Straso Angelovski, dismissed the agreement as treason and said that an ethnic Macedonian paramilitary force will be formed in October when “events will take another turn.” “We demand that NATO, the OSCE, EU, KFOR, and Red Cross missions, as well as all other masked spy nests … leave the country,” Angelovski told the
press. At the same time, an organization calling itself Gemidzii, after an early 20th century Macedonian terrorist group, announced that they have sentenced all Macedonian political, military, and religious leaders to death “because they have turned Macedonia into a servant of U.S. Imperialism.”

But given that so far a half a dozen such obscure groups have announced their formation--while their activity has been limited to demolishing ethnic Albanian-owned shops in Skopje--hardly anyone believes that the death-threats are serious. Nevertheless, bold leadership on the part of the leading Macedonian politicians will be required in the coming days to ensure the majority of the population supports the Ohrid agreement.

Vlado Jovanovski is a journalist with the Skopje magazine Forum.

Copyright Š 2001 Transitions Online.

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This is all deja vu for some of us "old-timers"!

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[Bratot]

The truth is that every state have created its own radical instrument i.e. "political gadgetry" for fictious formal representation of radical views of the people, in order to manipulate them on certain questions of "national" importance.

That's the easiest way to sabotage the eventual unwanted development by radicalization and revolt of the people against the state system.

This happened on the student protest in 2008 against the name change for Bucurest summit when organized group mixed into the crowd and took over control of the whole protest by stimulating agressive behavior and called the crowd to attack the Greek embassy which ended up negatively on the real organizators of that protest, they got arrested for the furious crowd and the incident with the embassy, there were about 2500-3000 people(mostly students) which were depicted as animals and were teared by the media who didn't show anything else (the music, the oro, singing the anthem, the messages of posters, that took place before the infiltration) except for the riots, burned conteiners, people that throwed rocks to the embassy etc.

It's systematical demotivation to undertake anything, any initiative against the current politics.

The fictious radical groups(organisations) are formed to amortize the radical potential movements and to discredit those who might organise the people.