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  • Bratot
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 2855

    BHHRG 2001 report: MACEDONIA IN CRISIS

    By Sasha Uzunov
    Melbourne Australia

    October 18, 2005

    Don't you just hate it when you make a prediction in an article and it comes true and newspaper editors don't take you seriously? Well, it's happened to me a number of times, which is very frustrating.

    In January 1991 I warned five months in advance that war would break out in Yugoslavia; that the Yugoslav Army would invade the republics of Slovenia and Croatia. In the same article, I was one of the first to reveal Yugoslavia supplying weapons to the Saddam regime of Iraq. No one wanted to run the story. It finally was picked up by the Croatian Herald, Melbourne, Australia and published on 25 January 1991.

    Eleven years later British journalists, Nicholas Wood and Ian Traynor, wrote in the Guardian newspaper, "Yugoslavia the hub of arms sales to Saddam," November 26, 2002, picked by the Mlebourne Age


    During an interview in 1993 for Melbourne radio station 3ZZZ I said that war would breakout in Macedonia unless a strong and large United Nations peacekeeping force was deployed to safeguard Macedonia's borders with Kosovo, Serbia, Bulgaria, Albania and Greece.

    Eight years later, I was a soldier in the Australian Army patrolling the East Timor - Indonesia border when I heard that an ethnic Albanian insurgency had erupted in the west of Macedonia.

    Every journalist dreams of finding a high-ranking source like Deep throat of Watergate fame. In 1992 I came across a high-ranking NATO source in Brussels, Belgium.

    He revealed to me the secret plan to partition Macedonia along ethnic lines after a short war: the west would be incorporated into a Greater Albania and the left over parts would be incorporated either by Serbia or Bulgaria.

    I found the plan to be far-fetched when I first heard it. I thought this person was pulling my leg. But later events showed that it wasn't far-fetched.

    We met at the European Parliament's (EP) Brussels office. I was an Australian journalist hired by the MILS news agency to train young Macedonian reporters and to fine tune its daily news wire service, which was being supplied to subscribers: foreign embassies and international media agencies.

    MILS's main office was in Brussels and had a branch in Skopje, the Macedonian capital. Skopje was manned by respected local journalist Saso Ordanoski, and his assistant was Mircela Casuleva, a Reuters correspondent and wife of Slobodan Casule, who later became Foreign Minister.

    I found Mircela to be an excellent journalist with a great personality.

    I was sitting at the bar in the EP with MILS Managing Director, Dr Ljupco Naumovski, a former Macedonian diplomat. A man introduced himself as working for NATO and showed me his ID card. We made some small talk and he left.

    few weeks later, MILS got an interesting phone call from the Belgian police saying it had been screened and given a clean bill of health to operate as a news agency; that it had no links to any foreign governments or intelligence services. The call was unusual to say the least and why it was made has never been made clear to me.

    The NATO source invited me out for drinks a number of times. He was a big vodka drinker. He must have had 5 or six when he let rip with the revelation that Macedonia's days as an independent nation were numbered. I laughed and said, "I agree with you unless the problem of corruption and the economy are fixed."

    "No it's not just a matter of money," he said. "There are greater outside forces at work that you don't know about." He would not elaborate. He had another 5 vodkas and left. This cat and mouse game kept going for a month or two, until he let it all hang out.

    He revealed in great detail how war would start in Macedonia; he named names; told me how weapons were being smuggled by ethnic Albanian insurgents into Macedonia through Kosovo and from Albania. He said a favourite supply route was through the western town of Debar, which sits on the Macedonian-Albanian border. He mentioned there were a number of mountain caves near Debar being used to hide weapons. Donkeys were being used to ferry ammunition.

    But he would not tell my who was pushing for war in Macedonia.

    By 1993 UN peacekeepers from the UNPROFOR mission were deployed to protect Macedonia's borders. This mission later became UNPREDEP. Years later, for some crazy reason the Macedonian government recognised Taiwan and China in retaliation used its seat in the UN Security Council to stop the mission. With UN peacekeepers out of the way, the 2001 war in Macedonia began as a spill over from the Kosovo conflict of 1999.

    The whole thing was mind-boggling. I remember talking to Mira, an elderly Serbian woman who was teaching the Macedonian language to Belgian children. She asked me what I was interested in writing about Macedonia. I said to her I would like to investigate the claims made by the NATO source and look into past Yugoslav communist crimes in Macedonia such as the infamous Chento show trial of 1946.

    Her response was "You don't need to dig up the past nor worry about the future." I found her lack of curiosity surprising considering her ex-husband was famous Macedonian writer Meto Jovanovski, and both her children are journalists. Son Borjan Jovanovski was a former Presidential media spokesman whilst daughter Svetlana Jovanovska is the Brussels correspondent for major newspaper Dnevnik.

    One day walked into our Brussels office a fit looking man in his late 30s or early 40s. He had very short blonde hair and had a military bearing. He introduced himself as Andreas Renatus Hartmann, a Member of the European Parliament for the German political party, The Christian Democratic Union (CDU).

    Mr Hartmann invited Dr Naumovski and myself to dinner at a swanky Moroccan restaurant. The dinner went well. We talked about a wide variety of subjects but the attention inevitably turned to the Balkans. I was enjoying eating the couscous and almost choked when Mr Hartmann said matter of fact that German Intelligence was about to open its first "station" in Tirana, Albania since World War II, and the British were pissed off at being beaten to the punch.

    I though to myself why is this guy telling me this? He dropped more bombshells when he said that Europe, in particular German and France did not want an Islamic state in the Balkans namely Bosnia-Hercegovina or a Greater Albania. The German and French right wing parties wanted to strengthen Macedonia to act as a buffer state against possible Islamic fundamentalist terrorism.

    I found this at odds with the NATO source's revelations. Was Macedonia caught in the cross-fire of a power play between competing European nations? What could it possibly all mean?

    And why was I told this? I could only speculate and say maybe they saw me as a young and enthusiastic journalist wanting to make a name for myself who would float the information in my articles. But what they didn't count on was unbelieving newspaper editors!

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    Published in the Australian Macedonian Weekly newspaper, 18 October 2005

    Sasha Uzunov is a freelance Australian journalist who has covered the Balkans and Iraq.
    The purpose of the media is not to make you to think that the name must be changed, but to get you into debate - what name would suit us! - Bratot
  • Rogi
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 2343

    #2
    A bit about the author, Sasha Uzunov...






    Uzunov serving in East Timor:

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    • pelagonia
      Junior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 24

      #3
      Very interesting.
      ''The figures of SS. Kiril and Metodi, and St. Clement and St. Naum of Ohrid are shining examples to the sons of Macedonia, whom a glorious future awaits on the day that Macedonia, united and free, takes her place as a member with equal rights of the family of the Balkan peoples." Krste Petkov Misirkov, 1913.

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      • Rogi
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 2343

        #4
        So is Macedonia really without options, given all of the above?
        Last edited by Rogi; 10-05-2008, 11:42 PM.

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        • Pelister
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2008
          • 2742

          #5
          The Macedonians have been targets for 150 years, so why should anything have changed !

          Reading reports like this, only corroborates what we were hearing from Gareth Evans in the E.U some years ago, that Macedonia would not last !

          He was talking like Macedonians were invisible, and didn't really exist.

          There are some cold hard facts that need to faced down, and one of those is that Macedonia is a target - and the relationship between Macedonia and the West is one of domination and oppression - rather than mutual recognition and respect, and all of that.

          Greece will be looking for a pretext to invade, and wipe out the Macedonians in their own backyard, once and for all.

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          • Risto the Great
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 15658

            #6
            Originally posted by Rogi View Post
            So is Macedonia really without options, given all of the above?
            No options whatsoever. The agenda has been clear for over 100 years and the only way we can move forward is to destroy any cancers from within.
            Risto the Great
            MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
            "Holding my breath for the revolution."

            Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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            • Pelister
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2008
              • 2742

              #7
              Originally posted by Rogi View Post
              So is Macedonia really without options, given all of the above?
              The Macedonians have no options that will preserve their nationality, identity, heritage ...etc, except, reject talks, reject the E.U, reject NATO.

              It has the option of pursuing bilateral economic relations with "friendly" states, but this is incidental to the real issue.

              The real issue is its survival. It's fighting for its survival. Who would have thought that a majority government could "once again" find itself under such enormous international pressure? What have they done to deserve it? I can understand why the West might isolate a hostile south african regime, but Macedonia - a multi-ethnic, democratically elected State?

              There is something very rotten in Greece, and Europe, and Macedonia is best staying away from it.

              The best thing Macedonia can do, is clean out its house. Remove any agency of instability or potential instability, such as the large Albanian minority (needs to be reduced), raising the number of Macedonians, removing Crvenko ...etc.

              Macedonia's enemies are finding ways of interferring in Macedonia's political affairs - now that the Albanians are out, its Crvenko, and I bet you he is being paid enormous amounts of money to criticize the Gruevski government, and coddle up to the E.U ...

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              • Rogi
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2008
                • 2343

                #8
                How do you propose that the large Albanian minority is reduced?

                Also, in what ways do you see the number of Macedonians can be raised, as opposed to the much higher birth rate off the Albanian population in Macedonia?

                These are some fundamental things and nobody has really made any suggestions or come up with any ideas as to how we can do this and re-adjust the balance of power in Macedonia, further in favour of the Macedonians.

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                • Traveller
                  Banned
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 177

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Pelister View Post
                  The Macedonians have been targets for 150 years, so why should anything have changed !

                  Reading reports like this, only corroborates what we were hearing from Gareth Evans in the E.U some years ago, that Macedonia would not last !

                  He was talking like Macedonians were invisible, and didn't really exist.

                  There are some cold hard facts that need to faced down, and one of those is that Macedonia is a target - and the relationship between Macedonia and the West is one of domination and oppression - rather than mutual recognition and respect, and all of that.

                  Greece will be looking for a pretext to invade, and wipe out the Macedonians in their own backyard, once and for all.
                  Greece is the only country from your neighbours that does not want an inch of your soil. If we did , a provocation like MAVI (you dont know about what i'm talking but it's ok) would be the easiest thing in the world.

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                  • El Bre
                    Member
                    • Sep 2008
                    • 713

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Traveller View Post
                    Greece is the only country from your neighbours that does not want an inch of your soil. If we did , a provocation like MAVI (you dont know about what i'm talking but it's ok) would be the easiest thing in the world.
                    So why didn't they Traveller? could it be that the Greek government doesn't want it's own Afghanistan? because that's what it would amount to. There are so many things practically wrong with Greece invading the Republic of Macedonia that it just doesn't make sense militarily.

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                    • Traveller
                      Banned
                      • Sep 2008
                      • 177

                      #11
                      Originally posted by El Bre View Post
                      So why didn't they Traveller? could it be that the Greek government doesn't want it's own Afghanistan? because that's what it would amount to. There are so many things practically wrong with Greece invading the Republic of Macedonia that it just doesn't make sense militarily.
                      Greece ONLY makes liberative wars. To do what in ROM? It is a totally strange place for us.When we had to fight for Macedonia we fought (1903-1908, 1912-1913, 1945-49). GREECE DOESN'T THREATEN ANYBODY. IF there is a provocation and a claim to Greece's land, THE COUNTRY RESPONSIBLE FOR IT should be ready to return to stone age.EVEN TURKEY. I repeat it. Greece is the only neighbour of ROM that doesnot want an inch of this country's soil. And for the moderators: All lunatics ,like El Bre, who talk about war should be banned.
                      Last edited by Traveller; 10-07-2008, 03:47 PM.

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                      • Risto the Great
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 15658

                        #12
                        So how do we ban most of Greece?
                        It still casts a wistful eye over Bitola.
                        A simple amendment to Greece's constitution about this matter will clear it up. Macedonia did this many years ago, perhaps you missed it .... it was done as a sign of goodwill and compromise over a name issue that did not ever exist prior to the nineties.
                        Risto the Great
                        MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
                        "Holding my breath for the revolution."

                        Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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                        • El Bre
                          Member
                          • Sep 2008
                          • 713

                          #13
                          All lunatics ,like El Bre, who talk about war should be banned.
                          Stop seeing what only what you want to see. I said that war was not an option. I'm actually agreeing with you.

                          You should have a talk with this guy though;

                          YouTube - Aslanidis - Makedonas me trela!!! part2
                          Last edited by El Bre; 10-07-2008, 09:25 PM.

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                          • osiris
                            Senior Member
                            • Sep 2008
                            • 1969

                            #14
                            most likely a first generation "macedonian" and he decalres macedonia to belong to his people. this is greece at its raw true self. thanks che i found the video very informative, it comfimrs how rabid and ignornsat and crazy the majority of the greek public are.

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                            • Spartan
                              Senior Member
                              • Sep 2008
                              • 1037

                              #15
                              ^^ He says he is a Pontian

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