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  • Risto the Great
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 15658

    Leading article: EU expansion depends on Ireland

    This week Ireland votes for the second time on the Lisbon Treaty but with a different result expected. Adversity has humbled the once confident Celtic tiger, which threw down a gauntlet to Brussels by voting "no" in 2008. It looks a more pliant creature today. Without a dramatic change in opinion before Friday, the "yes" camp appears set to carry the day.


    This week Ireland votes for the second time on the Lisbon Treaty but with a different result expected. Adversity has humbled the once confident Celtic tiger, which threw down a gauntlet to Brussels by voting "no" in 2008. It looks a more pliant creature today. Without a dramatic change in opinion before Friday, the "yes" camp appears set to carry the day.

    This will disappoint Eurosceptics in Britain and elsewhere who must be desperately hoping for a last-minute change of heart in the Republic. Another Irish "no" could scupper the Lisbon Treaty for good and throw a mighty spoke into the wheels of the EU chariot. A "yes" vote, on the other hand, leaves the Tories looking isolated in Europe in their opposition to ratification. What has been missing from the debate, however, is much discussion of how the Irish vote will affect those countries waiting to join the EU. Since 2004, when Romania and Bulgaria were admitted, the EU has thrown the equivalent of a large blanket over east and south-east Europe but with a huge hole in the middle, covering the former Yugoslavia and Albania.

    Some of these states have few hopes of membership in the short term. Others, such as Croatia and Macedonia, obtained EU-candidate status years ago but cannot move forward on accession until the row over Lisbon is resolved.

    There is nothing to prevent the EU from expanding eastwards if the Lisbon treaty fails to gain general assent – but it won't happen. "No expansion without Lisbon" has become a mantra in some EU countries, especially Germany.

    This is unfortunate, because the continued existence of a kind of black hole to the west of the EU's eastern border with Ukraine and Turkey makes this region a magnet for traffickers. It also renders the EU's external border so complex that policing it becomes almost impossible.

    An Irish "yes" on Friday will not resolve the debate over where the EU's final eastern border should lie. It will, however, help to end the current logjam which, for no good reason, has left half the Balkans in the EU, and half outside it. As the Irish vote, they must remember that the future of other countries far beyond their own lies partly in their hands.
    Risto the Great
    MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
    "Holding my breath for the revolution."

    Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com
  • Soldier of Macedon
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2008
    • 13670

    #2
    Some of these states have few hopes of membership in the short term. Others, such as Croatia and Macedonia, obtained EU-candidate status years ago but cannot move forward on accession until the row over Lisbon is resolved.
    Macedonia can't move forward because of the racists to her south. How would the enforcement of the Lisbon treaty help Macedonia 'move forward'? And why the the Irish been so adamantly against it till now?
    In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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    • Pelister
      Senior Member
      • Sep 2008
      • 2742

      #3
      Originally posted by Soldier of Macedon View Post
      Macedonia can't move forward because of the racists to her south. How would the enforcement of the Lisbon treaty help Macedonia 'move forward'? And why the the Irish been so adamantly against it till now?
      What is this Lisbon treaty business all about ? I'm not sure I have caught onto it.

      Surely there are more important things than just getting into the E.U, or trying to ?

      Personally I think the Macedonians should give the E.U the boot. There are better things it can do for itself than waste valuable time and resources trying to get into an organization that doesn't accept it.
      Last edited by Pelister; 09-28-2009, 11:39 PM.

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      • Risto the Great
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2008
        • 15658

        #4
        Will the Czech bounce?

        New Czech move to block EU treaty
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        Czech senators opposed to the EU's Lisbon Treaty have filed a new complaint against it with the country's constitutional court.

        The complaint could create a new delay to treaty ratification, even if Irish voters back the treaty in a referendum on Friday.

        Czech President Vaclav Klaus, a Eurosceptic, says he will not sign the treaty until the court decides.

        The treaty cannot take effect unless all 27 EU member states back it.

        The Czech court has rejected previous complaints about the treaty, which is aimed at streamlining EU institutions to improve decision-making in the enlarged bloc.

        But it could take the court as long as six months to deliver its verdict on the new complaint, the BBC's Rob Cameron reports from Prague.

        Sovereignty battle

        Seventeen Eurosceptic senators signed the latest petition, despite the fact that the Czech parliament has approved the treaty.

        The senator who lodged the new complaint, Jiri Oberfalzer, told the BBC it centred on persisting concerns that Lisbon infringed upon Czech sovereignty.

        He and his colleagues want the court to decide whether the treaty forms the legal foundations for the creation of a European superstate. If it does, they say, then it clearly violates the Czech constitution.

        A further threat to Lisbon would emerge if it is not ratified in time for the UK general election, expected next April or May, which the British Conservatives are favourites to win. They have pledged to put Lisbon to a UK referendum if it is not yet in force.

        The treaty's opponents say it undermines national sovereignty and concentrates too much power in Brussels. They also argue that it is simply the EU's defunct constitution repackaged.

        The Republic of Ireland will hold a second referendum on Lisbon on 2 October.

        Irish voters rejected the treaty last year, but EU governments, anxious to bring the treaty into force, then gave Ireland legally binding "guarantees" that Lisbon would not affect key aspects of Irish sovereignty. These Irish guarantees have not yet been attached to the treaty.

        Opinion polls suggest that this time round the Irish "Yes" camp will win, despite widespread criticism of the Dublin government over its handling of the economic crisis.

        Ireland is the only EU member state to hold a referendum on the treaty, though there have been calls for referendums in several other countries.

        Under Irish law, any major amendment to an EU treaty entails an amendment to the Irish constitution - and that requires a referendum.

        Elsewhere in the EU, governments argue that Lisbon amends earlier EU treaties and does not need to be put to a referendum.

        The treaty would bring in some major changes. It would expand the policy areas subject to qualified majority voting (QMV), rather than unanimity. It would also establish a new post of president of the European Council - the grouping of EU states' leaders - and a high representative for foreign affairs.
        Risto the Great
        MACEDONIA:ANHEDONIA
        "Holding my breath for the revolution."

        Hey, I wrote a bestseller. Check it out: www.ren-shen.com

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        • George S.
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2009
          • 10116

          #5
          I had a feeling it would all come back to haunt them A lot of eu countries don't mind getting the benefits ??of being with the eu but they don't want to surrender their sovereignity.But what happens if the people have spoken & they don't want to be in the eu & but the politicians want eu membership they are going to be at loggerheads with each other.
          Last edited by George S.; 09-30-2009, 01:40 AM. Reason: spel
          "Ido not want an uprising of people that would leave me at the first failure, I want revolution with citizens able to bear all the temptations to a prolonged struggle, what, because of the fierce political conditions, will be our guide or cattle to the slaughterhouse"
          GOTSE DELCEV

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          • Soldier of Macedon
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2008
            • 13670

            #6
            The EU looks like a pathetic attempt at replicating an entity like the US in Europe, a stupid idea that will never work for several reasons.
            In the name of the blood and the sun, the dagger and the gun, Christ protect this soldier, a lion and a Macedonian.

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